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yes, i'll pm you back in a bit.


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Nah the olders members weren't wrong, they just exaggerated, just how all these kids exaggerate PT.


Who would "all these kids" be exactly?


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Not you Sama, relax, youre one of the only smart ones I've seen here.


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Actually, definition of hilarious is that it isn't true.. And who is everyone? You and a couple of unintelligent nerds? I don't see a problem with the smart people on this forum.

Dirp! Pretty funny how you just like tdtd began screaming about people being in denial when they don't agree with you and pretty awesome that you have the exact same way of talking.
The only unintelligent nerds here are the ones you are imagining.

And if people constantly called me someone else I would find it annoying and not constantly yell "omg, that's hilarious! that's hilarious thats hilarious!!", I'd probably go report these people to a moderator.
But I won't call you tdtd anymore as you are obviously an idiot who needs protection.


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Yet another unintelligent troll with nothing to offer includes his unintelligent opinion. What happened to the intelligent people on this forum? Oh yes, they don't make stupid accusations. I don't expect much from an idiot like you.


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Hey td, you do realise this is a forum right? Just chill and calm down. So what if everyone believes you're a sock? It's already been established that the mods can't prove it so take it easy. It's obvious that you're getting pretty riled up.


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Actually no i'm not getting riled, hence my amusement. And by everyone on this forum you mean a bunch of trolls that have not offered 1 hint of contribution to it? That is why I find it humorous. But antisocial nerds need their fun somehow.


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Actually no i'm not getting riled, hence my amusement.


Well you say that you're amused, but it seems that you're kind of riled up.

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Originally posted by Darth Sexy
And by everyone on this forum you mean a bunch of trolls that have not offered 1 hint of contribution to it? That is why I find it humorous. But antisocial nerds need their fun somehow.


Not that I'm trying to start it with you, but don't you post the most on these forums?


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Wow, best arguments to defend oneself I have ever heard.
"DERRRR.. U ARE UNINTELLIGENT, DERRR.."

The accusations which are made are far from stupid, if you somehow came to the conclusion that GM Nebaris is actually me, would you be unintelligent?
And your amusement about this issue is pretty scary. As for my contribution to this thread, I have talked about this ages ago, if everything says Sidious was the strongest sith in history then it is so.
I've talked with Borborad about it in the past when everybody wanted to go against the word of the creator of the ancient sith comics, it makes no difference. If he says they are somehow far below Sidious then it is so.
And your contributions are nothing but questioning logic and saying "hurray, borborad", go play in the traffic, arrogant fool.


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Oh, there was some time spent debunking a lot of the BS about the Ancient Sith in the past...alot of it was so inconsistent and ridiculous...hell, one essay on Ragnos even said he ruled unchallenged....and put down all rebellions.

I mean, honestly...


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If this is just going to be a long run of insults, I shall close.


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Oh, there was some time spent debunking a lot of the BS about the Ancient Sith in the past...alot of it was so inconsistent and ridiculous...hell, one essay on Ragnos even said he ruled unchallenged....and put down all rebellions.

I mean, honestly...


You still haven't answered my questions, and the insults belong mostly to you personally attacking me(which I find humorous).

And overlord, please don't post if you have nothing intelligent to add, which you apparently don't. Apparently you can't comprehend the concept of a debate, since to you, ambiguous text and trolling around with bullshit>questioning logic.. But im glad your opinion means so much to you.


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Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You still haven't answered my questions, and the insults belong mostly to you personally attacking me(which I find humorous).

And overlord, please don't post if you have nothing intelligent to add, which you apparently don't. Apparently you can't comprehend the concept of a debate, since to you, ambiguous text and trolling around with bullshit>questioning logic.. But im glad your opinion means so much to you.


However if you are unable to question the credibility, reliability and canonicity of these statements, then LS is right. I however think you can question them.


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I can.. It is indeed in the sourcebook, I'm surprised you missed it since you have it.


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Simple, pal:

1. Nai said either Luke wins or they both day and those were in the Ragnos owns all days
2. Oh yeah, Game stats aren't canon unless you want to put Darth vader far over Exar Kun


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Well lightsnake lets see..


Game mechanics are designed to try to match continuity to fit the purposes of the game for which they were created. They can serve to provide a scale from which to compare how one character or piece of technology stacks up against another. Because RPGs use dice, there is always the element of random chance involved, which isn't quite applicable to a book.

But stats themselves aren't created randomly; they are based on what is already known. As such, we can always look to them as a basis when writing books. I often look to RPG stats to see for example, what type of Force powers a character may have. Or if we haven't determined the stats of a particular vehicle, we can look to RPG stats for a basis of comparison.

Conversely, I think it would be a determinant if books were artificially limited by game stats. So I would agree that a book is going to overrule a stat if there is a contradiction. - Leland Chee

Now this would mean that game stats are used EXACTLY to compare 2 opponents.. Interesting... Also, they are overruled only when there is a contradiction. Considering the fact there is no contradiction, just an addition to Ragnos being the "most powerful of the most powerful", remind me how they don't work? Or is the sourcebook not a canon source now?


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Game stats are N-canon, declared so by the database. Sourcebook story info is canon. Game stats are gameplay and thus 100 percent N-canon, declared so right on Leland Chee's Blog

Vader>Kun then.

C-canon is "common" or pretty much everything in the Expanded Universe: Star Wars books, comics, games, cartoons, non-theatrical films, and more. Games are a special case as generally only the stories are C-canon while things like stats and gameplay may not be (they also offer non-canonical options to the player, like choosing female gender to a canonically male character). C-canon elements have been known to appear in the movies, thus making them G-canon. (This includes: the name "Coruscant," swoop bikes, Quinlan Vos, Aayla Secura, YT-2400 freighters, Salporin, and Action VI Transports.)


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I understand that but the fact that this is a versus forum, and Chee SPECIFICALLY states that the RPG stats ARE used for determining how opponent X would fair against opponent Y, we can use those statistics to get a good idea. The stats are only USELESS if they contradict the novels or the movies, which they do not. So by that i'm not saying Ragnos pwns all, but we get a very good idea on how powerful he was. Now all they need to do is write more books about him, or even 1.


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I can.. It is indeed in the sourcebook, I'm surprised you missed it since you have it.


I don't have the core sourcebook, but I do have the dark side sourcebook and IIRC it says nothing of the sort.


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