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Blue_Hefner
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Originally posted by Lightsnake
I never said Yoda knows only one form, I'm challenging the assertion he knew six

He was the lightsaber instructor of the entire Order. He knew every form except vaapad but he was a master of juyo.

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No, you told me to prove Dooku didn't learn Makashi from Yoda...it's an order of ten thousand Jedi with dozens of saber instructors and even more holocrons.

No, actually, that text shows Yoda didn;t teach Dooku everything Dooku knows and Dooku was a radical student.

Yoda's stated to only use Ataru. There's nothing ever saying he uses other forms, let alone teach Dooku an archaic one...

That's where you stated he only used or knew one form, jackass.

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He was the entire lightsaber instructor of the Order. He knew every form except vaapad but he was a master of juyo.

indeed

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No, he wasn't. He was an ataru master and aside from training the younglins, when was he the saber trainer? Sora Bulq, Cin Drallig...do they not exist?

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Both of you need to calm down.

Darth Sexy, get to my arguments or leave. You're acting as immature as Lightsnake is and only wish to piss him off.

Lightsnake, I understand you getting angry at him, but you're being as immature as he is and it isn't helping my debate at all with him. Especially if he gets locked in a petty argument with you instead of handling my debate, which is what I ultimately want.

escape, do you have aim or ICQ? I can multi task very well but I have extreme a.d.d to the point where if lightsnake throws around weak arguments, I have to answer them. Give me your ICQ and I will try to answer your questions as much as I can.

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Escape, mind just telling him exactly who Illustrious is?

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Originally posted by Lightsnake
No, he wasn't. He was an ataru master and aside from training the younglins, when was he the saber trainer? Sora Bulq, Cin Drallig...do they not exist?

How many times are you going to contradict yourself lightsnake, just shut up already on this point, you lost it, get back to Ragnos.

Jul 14th, 2006 06:30 PM

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You know something, sexy, mlt's leave this board behind...you want to really debate, bring it on AIM at Debnath
I challenge you

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escape, do you have aim or ICQ? I can multi task very well but I have extreme a.d.d to the point where if lightsnake throws around weak arguments, I have to answer them. Give me your ICQ and I will try to answer your questions as much as I can.

I can wait until you're done. Just get going.

And, Lightsnake, I've already confirmed Illustrious's identity a minute or so ago on another thread.

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That's where you stated he only used or knew one form, jackass.

Would you please be quiet about it?

He said that Yoda doesn't use more than one form. Not that he didn't know any others.

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I'll IM you in a second lightsnake... So I can continue the debate with Escape here, although you've lost this one with Yoda.

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By the way, if you want to debate about Dooku or Yoda, go elsewhere. I made this thread with a purpose, and I'm not going to let people allow distractions to be formed so they can dodge it all.

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Escape, continue..

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Originally posted by Escape81
I can tell you, which you've confirmed, is that I have more proof backing me than what you do. You only have your "absence of proof".

Like I told you before about the laser anology. Without the machine that focuses and augments the it, light itself cannot burn through diamond, the hardest substance on Earth.

Hell, even when light can burn grass - it requires extremely dry circumstances - or a magnifying glass, which provides the same anology. A magnifying glass in a hot day can be used to burn grass. But it is because the glass itself magnifies the sun's own energy.

Are you understanding?

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You are right, you have had a little more proof, or not really proof but logical speculation than I have. But the idea that the sith used their amulets because they couldn't do anything without them is just speculation. I'm not saying that they DIDNT need them but I can just as logically assume that they used them for their sith alchemy experiments, etc.. However the fact that they used to as a means to pass on to future generations is a very logical statement.

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No, he wasn't. He was an ataru master and aside from training the younglins, when was he the saber trainer? Sora Bulq, Cin Drallig...do they not exist?

Yoda looked over and nodded bleakly. "Abandon his young students, Cin Drallig would not."

Obi Wan sank to his knees beside the fallen jedi. " he was my lightsaber instructor..."

"And his, was I," Yoda said....

Yoda served an important role in the Jedi Council. When young Padawans began their first foray into Jedi training, they did so under Yoda's guidance. Many of the Republic's greatest Jedi trained under Yoda when they were children -- schooled in groupings called clans. Once the Jedi hopefuls grew older, approaching their teenage years, they would then be paired to an elder Jedi Knight or Master to continue training one-on-one.
-from star wars.com

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You are right, you have had a little more proof, or not really proof but logical speculation than I have. But the idea that the sith used their amulets because they couldn't do anything without them is just speculation. I'm not saying that they DIDNT need them but I can just as logically assume that they used them for their sith alchemy experiments, etc.. However the fact that they used to as a means to pass on to future generations is a very logical statement.

Yes, and I don't deny that they may have created those amulets to "pass on".

I am talking about these amulets in relation to combat. These amulets granted the user to blast through roughly anything that got in their way. They are weapons, and without them, Sadow was never seen doing the same feats.

Meaning that is highly, highly, highly unlikely that he could do it without them.

Essentially, if you pit Sadow against Sidious without any artifacts for either of them, how is Sadow going to defeat Palpatine?

Jul 14th, 2006 06:42 PM