well, im not asking about the personality exactly. Im speaking of fashion of emo vs. scene kids. They are, in fact, not the same thing.
Besides if your talking about attitude, emo kids are, well, emotional. They wear their hearts on their sleeves. Focusing on heart break would be the main form of being emo.
Scene kids feel they are better than everybody else. They are vain(sp?). Scene kids dye their hair black and white, wear bandanas, tight clothes, white leather spiky belts with the buckle to the side or back. But back to the music; emo kids listen to emo while scene kids are supposed to listen to hardcore, metal, emo, and indie music. But mainly hardcore and metal.
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if emo does not mean emotional than what is it? enlighten me.
I know as a musical genre, emo is an off shoot of punk.
But the term emo is wrong itself for the type of music, because there is emotion in every music genre.
What do you mean AS a genre? That's all it WAS. Emo doesn't mean emotion or emotional, though. Stupid kids think it means that, hence why they think it's stupid.
It's short for emotive hardcore, a long dead genre. I've had to repeat this to about 15 people on this site.
well people take it as a a fashion sense now, dont they?
How do you know this? Im not trying to be a dick but I read an article along time ago that stated that emo was "the emotional genre".
Ive nver herad of the term emotive hardcore.
and Ive only heard of hardcore being the type of music thats highly influenced by metal and the singers scream alot.
Yes, and they're wrong to do so. That's not what "emo" means.
Oh, you've never heard it so it must be wrong. All the music history that I've studied, all the emotive hardcore punk bands that spawned the term, they must all be wrong.
No, that's not what emo mean. Emo is a shortened term for emotive hardcore, and that genre is all but dead.
So? What does this matter? You not having heard of it doesn't mean it's false.
"'Emo' is not short for 'Emotional.' 'Emo' does not mean Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, despite what MTV has lead you to believe in the last few years. 'Emo' is not sidebangs, tight pants, and male vocalists who sing like little girls about their failed relationships. 'Emo' is not the use of diluted, meaningless metaphors and similes such as 'My arms are like pinecones.', and most definitely is not the rampant use of words such as 'autumn', 'heart', 'knife', 'bleeding', 'leaves', and 'razorblade.'.
I just thought I'd clear that up after all of these 'definitions' in which I have encountered an unbelievable amount of people who try to pass off their blatantly false pretenses as fact, and are slowly infecting others with their high-horse, holier-than-thou bullshit. Because honestly, with your ridiculous definitions, Beethoven, George Gershwin, and Britney Spears are/was 'emo bands.'.
Now, onto the real definition.
In the early 90s there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as 'emotive hardcore', spearheaded by Rites of Spring. Harder-core-than-thou kids, who swore by Dischord Records a la Minor Threat, actually coined the term 'Emo' as something of a put-down for the kids who really liked Rites of Spring, Indian Summer and this new wave of 'emotive hardcore' bands. That's right, 'Emo' was once not something kids called themselves. The field exploded outwards from there - Level-Plane Records has always been the most famous emo label. Acts like Yaphet Kotto, I Hate Myself, Saetia, Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, You And I, and hosts of others came in the next decade. Most emo bands have since broken up, but there's still the occasional hold-out (again, the majority of Level-Plane Records' roster has been a procession of emo acts). Like most DIY hardcore/punk of the time, a majority found its way onto vinyl and not much else. Some people consider bands like Fugazi, and later Sunny Day Real Estate, a progression of emo, but personally, I don't quite follow that philosophy.
Often, more recently, this gets intertwined with post-hardcore, and understandably so - that's nothing to make an issue of, since well shit, at least it's close.
Since the late 90s, though, bands have been emerging in the vein of Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard Confessional, and the thousands of their clones. As far as I can tell, some lazy journalist somewhere, writing an article about them, decided 'Well, f*ck, no one knows what emo is anyways, so I'll call these bands 'emo.' - sounds more appealing than bubblegum pop rock...' and the spiral continued downwards into the current amalgomation of bands MTV has told everyone is 'emo.'.
Somehow, people decided that 'emo' meant 'emotional', which is obviously bullshit, as 99% of bands make music to illicit emotion, which would make 'emotional' a completely all-encompassing genre from classical to opera to pop to rap.".
This was typed by someone else, but it's a mostly correct explanation. With the exception of Fugazi not being emo, but a case can be made either way there.
I was just asking a damn uqestion because I was actually intersted in knowing what is really is. I wasnt saying that I was correct. I was stating what I know. calm down.
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