Padme's line of "We're gonna need some help!" is what turned me against AOTC. I was enjoying it in the the theater until I heard that line. Every time I watch the movie now I seem to spot one more bit of corniness, or someone else promoting themselves to either "Captain Obvious" or "Colonel Cheesiness."
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In the name of... what's wrong with that line? Corniness? Star Wars is one big corn feed! There are cornier lines than that. How about when Obi Wan responds "There isn't time." I think in each movie somebody says that. It's like "I have a bad feeling."
But how about Padme was right? What if they had waited for some more of those jedi ships, full of clone troopers and jedi and stuff. Dooku wouldn'tna hada chance! Why didn't the jedi ship fire back at those two orangie ships? Just keep Dooku from escaping until more republic ships arrive.
It's got nothing to do about her being true or not. To the dismay of many, Jar Jar turned out to be essential to the plotline, but that doesn't stop us from despising him.
Not to mention that, since Natalie Portman, IMO, was bloody awful at points, bad at others, and acceptable in the rest, this line coming from her especially, is rather annoying. It's so whiny and high-pitched, she's a girl know, but that doesn't stop it from sounding dumb. Factor in the blatant obviousness, and you end up with an American cliche of aline, considering their circumstance. Couldn't she have said something more along the lines of, "You can't beat him," or "He's too powerful for you!" Something other than the freaking piece of cheese she spewed.
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The line is fine, and so is the delivery. You're too hard on her, and the line. Padme wouldn't say something like "You can't beat him;" she's not a jedi she doesn't know his strengths. "He's too powerful for you?" That sounds like Vader! They did need help! I guess we disagree.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Finally someone else who sees that theres no reason to fuss over little stuff like that. That's why people hate the PT, because the pick over stuff that doesn't matter.
And one line didn't ruin the movie for me, that line ruined the next minute for me. After that I started listening to SW lines instead of just hearing them, which also made me a fan. I went home and watched TPM but instead of just hearing SW talk, I heard lines of corniness, then I saw AOTC again, and caught even more of them.
Then I watched the OT again. There were lines of fluff, but in proportion to the PT, there are considerably less of them. 3 years later during the ROTS screening I rolled my eyes at least a dozen times, most of 'em during scenes with Portman or Christenson. Just about everyone I've mentioned this to agrees with me that the PT, AOTC especially, is filled with statements that any moron could have spouted. The bad acting that many here have claimed the PT possesses is from the dialogue, not body-movment. That bad dialogue takes the form of corn, cheese, and fluff.
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Now that I look back at AOTC, it was horribly put together, the only reason I understood ROTS was because I saw the Cartoon series. AOTC should have made things make sense for ROTS.
They didn't advance Plotlines that they spoke of in the beginning, like Dooku and friends. The PT Movies were reliant on the EU for information, that's really sad.....
Not to mention it destroyed Boba Fett for me, and the only good part was the Arena Scene.
Well the thing that bothered me most is that AOTC seemed to set-up for a grand resolving conflict. But when I saw ROTS, I really wondered what the heck AOCT was about, why it was made in the first place. ONly to say two things: Ani and Padme fall in love and a Clone Army get made. Since the latter in the end is just boring exposition, AOTC is a virtually obsolete film. Watching it again with my kids it became clear that it just has a few nice action sequences but that's about it. AOTC is one big fluff...
No way!! ESB is a classic and shattered the world with Vader's immortal line: "I am your father". And even today ESB stands out among critics in general as a great film. AOTC will never ever reach that status.
ESB was at least mostly completed, it left room for a Sequel, but AOTC left Plots incomplete, and only addressed them towards the end, then the Cartoon pretty much had to make up for it
INdeed, indeed... It even started whole plot threads that were never finished or... when finished... didn't prove to be very interesting. After all, who cares where Boba Fett came from?
Cut out everything that doesn't happen on Tattooine in AOTC and you've got a pretty good movie. Nothing else (NOTHING else) that happens in that movie matters.
Except for Mace realising that the Jedi are getting crappier and crappier with the Force. I said, "Good for you."
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