awwww and I was totally gettin ready for a good ol' super-multi-battle-post rampage.. damn...
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Some, myself included, draw a greater distinction between what would happen in a comic written by writers who want to make a compelling story, and what the outcome of a fight would be on the forums under standard conditions.
It's your prerogative to draw a lesser distinction, but don't play martyr.
In a comic book Flash can be taken down by Deathstroke, WW can lasso Zoom and Batman can box WW's ears. Captain America can fight Namor, and beat Iceman.
In the forums I really don't see any of that happening. Do you?
half of the feats you just gave to support your example are subject to circumstantial evidence.. so given those same circumstances.. yes....
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I.e. the stronger/more powerful opponent wasn't using the extent of their abilities :/ I meant if any of those fights Deathstroke/Flash, WW/Batman, Captain America/Iceman were on the forums...
soljer... how come you're the only one that gets me here?
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Aside from prep, Iceman won't be a total idiot on the forums, so that's exempt. Also things like forgetting they can fly and severly slowing a character down and weakening them.
because you asked if these things would happen... well they happened to being with WITH CIRCUMSTANCES.... so yes... given circumstances they could happen again.... you should have used better examples.. like wolverine regrowing from a skeleton in 2 minutes sans outside factors.. no I don't see that happening.. unfortunately this topic (as I said before) isn't akin to that kind of extreme example so...
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wouldn't he though.. i mean CIS still applies and that's more cis than anything... not that I don't get what you're trying to say though...
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__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
They ARE subject to forum conditions if the original poster says "Deathstroke gets a few months to prepare for his fight with Flash" or "Iceman has CIS on, and acts like a complete retard"
Then, yeah, sure, Cap could take it to Iceman, and Deathstroke could beat the Flash.
However, unless the original poster mentions that, Deathstroke and Cap are TERRIBLY outclassed.
The context of my original question was with regard to what happens in comics vs what happens in a standard conditions fight in the forum. Not what would happen in a forum fight "with stipulations" e.g.
I think Ben is highly underrated here. I mean, in the Superman/FF crossover, Ben had a great showing against Cyborg Supes, who is at least at Superman-level, but just so i dont do a repeat thread of everyone saying Ben would be dead in seconds im adding special stipulations to give Ben more of a chance. First, Superman cannot use his eye beams, speed blitz, or Ice Breath/Super Breath. Second, Superman has one hand tied behind his back by an 1rst-grade-adamantium Coil. Third, Superman cannot give Ben a ring out, such as punching or throwing him too far away from the fight to continue, and there is no using the Sun either to throw/hit Ben into. Fourth, Superman gives Ben 2 free shots to start off the fight, and Ben can use whatever he wants for those fights, such as dropping large things on him, hitting him with objects, etc. And finally, Ben gets 3 hours of prep time help with Reed while Superman gets a half-hour of prep time help with Bruce.
One can always apply stipulations. But that is not my question.
Even with CIS explain how Captain America beats Iceman. He's still just living water.
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"I think Ben is highly underrated here. I mean, in the Superman/FF crossover, Ben had a great showing against Cyborg Supes, who is at least at Superman-level, but just so i dont do a repeat thread of everyone saying Ben would be dead in seconds im adding special stipulations to give Ben more of a chance. First, Superman cannot use his eye beams, speed blitz, or Ice Breath/Super Breath. Second, Superman has one hand tied behind his back by an 1rst-grade-adamantium Coil. Third, Superman cannot give Ben a ring out, such as punching or throwing him too far away from the fight to continue, and there is no using the Sun either to throw/hit Ben into. Fourth, Superman gives Ben 2 free shots to start off the fight, and Ben can use whatever he wants for those fights, such as dropping large things on him, hitting him with objects, etc. And finally, Ben gets 3 hours of prep time help with Reed while Superman gets a half-hour of prep time help with Bruce."
I'm really not sure. He seems to get taken out often enough in comics, though. How does he get taken out when he DOES act like an idiot? Meh. Maybe he'll just give up .
Seriously though, I'm not about to argue FOR Captain America in the face of Iceman. Jesus. I've argued for Iceman often enough to know exactly what he's capable of.
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