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Gandalf the White vs. Voldemort
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Originally posted by King-Fingolfin
When in Fangorn Forest, Aragorn drew Anduril against teh Cloaked Gandalf, and suddenly dropped it, saying it blazed with a sudden fire. Now before you go and say "IT WAS TEH HYPERBULLZ", Voldemort's staff is made of wood right? Well if you super duper heat wood, it catches fire am I right?
And nowhere is it said HOW he set it on fire, so you are assuming it is super duper fast before Voldemort can point his wand.

Lifting a staff takes more time than to point a wand.

Facts are.

Voldemort can spam teleport and effectively does so, making the chance of Gandalf hitting him not very likely.

Voldemort has several spells to incapacitate Gandalf and one that will kill him with a single casting.

With a gesture Gandalf can be disarmed.


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Technically, Gandalf doesn't need his staff in order to cast magic. It doesn't act like a wand in the purest form, although it is recognised as a way perhaps to focus his magic and also as a talisman. Who would not be harmless if you robbed him of his staff (despite what the movies may say)

Even so, his ability to defeat Voldemort or not is still very much up in the air and it would as much depend on chance and fate especially as Voldemort can instant kill Gandalf, should he hit him with the Killing Curse.


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I was under the impression that Staves help focus and channel their power, which is also what HP wands do.


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Funny. I was pretty sure Saruman could do a whole shit load of spells without his staff


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Gandalf easy

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Originally posted by King-Fingolfin
Funny. I was pretty sure Saruman could do a whole shit load of spells without his staff


Which is ironic considering he's only done about.. three, two of which I believe he used a staff for.

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Sarumon and Gandalf don't have "shitloads" of spells. They've only been shown to use a few.

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You're assuming that Gandalf can't cast the spell fast enough, even though it plainly said that he simply lifted up his staff, and both Gimli's and Aragorn's weapons were nullified? And when after this has he ever had a chance to use that spell effectively? The only one I could possibly think of is WK, and something tells me that spell wouldn't really work against a sword wreathed in flames.


I dunno... when he's fighting leagues of orcs? Fighting the nine, trolls, etc? If the man can lift his arms and three men suddenly drop their weapons, it'd make sense to assume that if a room full of orcs were to jump him he could do the same there.


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And we were never shown Gandalf's fight with the Nine.


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PIS?

Maybe. Or maybe it's not as convenient and easy to use as you thought.

Just because we were never shown the fight does not mean that we can assume he uses the techniqe.


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Originally posted by King-Fingolfin
Funny. I was pretty sure Saruman could do a whole shit load of spells without his staff
And what spells would those be? smile

Neither Gandalf nor Saruman have shown a shit-load of spells.


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comparing a character like Gandalf to Voldemort is a bit silly TBH, Voldemort is more of a "ooOOooOoo i'm ridiculously evil and i shoot green stuff outta my wand and kill you" ... while Gandalf's character is explained in much more detail and is alot more complex...

i voted Gandalf tho, he's not a 2D as Voldemort.

P.S: this is like comparing Rowling to Tolkien embarrasment ...

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comparing a character like Gandalf to Voldemort is a bit silly TBH, Voldemort is more of a "ooOOooOoo i'm ridiculously evil and i shoot green stuff outta my wand and kill you" ... while Gandalf's character is explained in much more detail and is alot more complex...

i voted Gandalf tho, he's not a 2D as Voldemort.

P.S: this is like comparing Rowling to Tolkien embarrasment ...


so true big grin


Gandalf would kill him anyway. Oooh he who must not be named, so scary stick out tongue

Gandalf would spank him. LOTR is on a whole different level than HP


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Re: Gandalf the White vs. Voldemort

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Originally posted by ESB -1138
This is an argument me and my friend can never complete. Who would win in this battle! Gandalf the White or Voldemort. I have said Gandalf the White but he says Voldemort and then we go about showing examples and stuff and neither can come before an answer.

So who wins?





Put it this way could u see Voldermort stepping to the Balrog................thats what i thought,Eclipso Gandalf would kick hiss assail,and Voldermorts tiny assail wand would be used as Big G's toothpick

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Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, however Gandalf was instructed by the Valar, NOT to contend with Sauron at the time of the War of the Rings. If I remember reading the book correctly, Gandalf was also forbidden from using his full power as well. Because like Sauron, he is a Maiar spirit which are second only to the Valar, who are Gods.

Gandalf in the book was WAY more powerful then the "Gandalf of the movie", in fact, Peter Jackson took the leisure of even toning down Gandalf in the movie. The fact remains this, Gandalf is insanely powerful, and remember that he was forbidden to unleash his full strength by the Valar which he followed completely when he was a wizard is every indication that Gandalf is alot more powerful then you guys are assuming here.

Remember that Gandalf also has the ability of foresight, and being able to see into the future, he would be well prepared for Voldemort. I take nothing away from Voldemort, however you are comparing a human "wizard" to an immortal angelic being who has been sent from a God, and was so powerful that they were instructed to restrain their power.

Easy choice for me here.

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Gandalf, no question.


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ok, that spell disintigrates Gandalf's flesh or whatever. His Maia spirit is released and i as he truly is, Voldemort wonders "What the **** is th-" oops, Voldemort is dead cuz GANDALF IS UBER POWERFUL AS A MAIA SPIRIT!!!! He just says die and Voldemort is dead so hahahahahahaha


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Uber powerful as a Maiar spirit?

Oh, you mean like how Saruman and Sauron are? smile


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Gandalf. Dumbledore fought Voldemort to a standstill and I think Gandalf is more powerful then Dumbledore so there you have it. As for Avadah Kedavra, well, Gandalf can always dodge it.


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Voldemort is only good with avada kadavera after he talks their ear off and aims it mentally he is the worst shot in a fight ! If he was a better shot everyone in that world would be dead , since he isnt a good shot Gandalf pwns


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Voldemort SHALL NOT PASS!!!


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