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they cant hear the music lord xyz. forget it


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they cant hear the music lord xyz. forget it
It's worth a try, is it not?


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definetly. but they start to get angry.


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im not here to war with you kharmadog. thats not my goal.


Nor is it mine, my goal was just to prove that your evidence is lacking, your research feeble and your behaviour hypocritical if not completely paranoid.

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no i doubt you have ever been there. i bet you soon left when you realsied you cannot win.


Win? How can one win a debate when people like you knowingly post false information to support your argument?

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Originally posted by lord xyz
You believe the official story that Osama Bin Laden planned the attack?

And you call Deano the idiot?


Why is it hard to believe that Al Qaida planned and executed the attacks?


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Originally posted by lord xyz
You believe the official story that Osama Bin Laden planned the attack?

And you call Deano the idiot?


so do you believe that the US government and thousands of people who would have the most thread like connections with them are somehow involved in a huge conspiracy to instigate a war by faking a terrorist attack and yet not a single person who would have been involved has ever testified to it

that would include all the personell who work in the bases where the alleged military planes (which has been disproven) that hit the twin towers...any of the people involved in the procurement and logistics of the explosives allegedly used in a controlled demolition on the WTC...not to mention that the supposed explosions happened in the external non load bearing walls (making them pointless for a controlled explosion) and not to mention that where these explosives were supposedly placed were inside offices yet no employees who survived ever said they saw someone drilling into wall and connecting wires anywhere in the building (i'm sure they would've realised what was going on if the did see something like that)

given that the governments cant keep single documents and meeting minutes from leaking left right and centre to the press every other day...its funny that not a single piece of paperwork or any other physical or electronic evidence of this supposed internal terror plot has ever been uncovered

not to mention that seemingly this plot managed to involve people who hate the US so much that the mere notion of conspiring with them would sicken them...and not to mention that not a single person from that organization has come forward, even in the light that their "brothers" are being killed and captured all over the world through actions of the US...and yet not a single one of them has come forward and exposed the american government as being involved in the plot

that is one hell of a cover up...it truely is...

not to mention that it is supposedly the US government that orchastrated is...despite certain people claiming that they have no power and are just puppets being manipulated by a higher power...so how does a powerless entity pull off such a plan?


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Originally posted by lord xyz
You believe the official story that Osama Bin Laden planned the attack?

And you call Deano the idiot?


Yeah, why believe the official statement, backed by facts and a video of a known terrorist proclaming he commited the attacks when we can believe some guy and his random website of conspiracy theories.

What fools these sheep are!

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not to mention that it is supposedly the US government that orchastrated is...despite certain people claiming that they have no power and are just puppets being manipulated by a higher power...so how does a powerless entity pull off such a plan?


Uhh..well I have no logical reasoning or facts to back up any of my contradicting statements so ill just call you a sheep and move onto starting a whole new thread covering the exact same shit!


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kidrock is right

here is bin laden from the video

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even tho in fact he looks like this

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''what fools these sheep are'' kidrock says...right again


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Originally posted by jaden101
so do you believe that the US government and thousands of people who would have the most thread like connections with them are somehow involved in a huge conspiracy to instigate a war by faking a terrorist attack and yet not a single person who would have been involved has ever testified to it

that would include all the personell who work in the bases where the alleged military planes (which has been disproven) that hit the twin towers...any of the people involved in the procurement and logistics of the explosives allegedly used in a controlled demolition on the WTC...not to mention that the supposed explosions happened in the external non load bearing walls (making them pointless for a controlled explosion) and not to mention that where these explosives were supposedly placed were inside offices yet no employees who survived ever said they saw someone drilling into wall and connecting wires anywhere in the building (i'm sure they would've realised what was going on if the did see something like that)

given that the governments cant keep single documents and meeting minutes from leaking left right and centre to the press every other day...its funny that not a single piece of paperwork or any other physical or electronic evidence of this supposed internal terror plot has ever been uncovered

not to mention that seemingly this plot managed to involve people who hate the US so much that the mere notion of conspiring with them would sicken them...and not to mention that not a single person from that organization has come forward, even in the light that their "brothers" are being killed and captured all over the world through actions of the US...and yet not a single one of them has come forward and exposed the american government as being involved in the plot

that is one hell of a cover up...it truely is...

not to mention that it is supposedly the US government that orchastrated is...despite certain people claiming that they have no power and are just puppets being manipulated by a higher power...so how does a powerless entity pull off such a plan?


all that is covered, and explained very easilly.

example

The Illuminati structure is one of pyramids within bigger pyramids within still bigger pyramids until you reach the one that encompasses all the others. It is like Russian dolls, one inside the other.

Look at any organisation today, a bank, business, university, government, whatever, and you will see that it is structured as a compartmentalised pyramid. The person who sits behind the counter in a bank will not know what their branch manager is deciding or planning, and the manager, in turn, will not know what is happening at regional level, and they will not know what is being planned at national level, and on it goes.

The only people who know the true plans and agenda of that bank are the handful at the top of the pyramid who know how all the innocent, individual, contributions by people employed by the bank fit together. The overwhelming majority of employees, including those in agencies like the CIA and FBI, have no idea what the big picture is because they are compartmentalised from what is going on elsewhere at their own level, let alone at higher and higher levels.

What can seem matter of fact and innocent to an individual within the pyramid can be very much more sinister when put together with everyone else's compartmentalised contributions.

A "bank" pyramid, for instance, is encompassed by bigger pyramids until you have one that includes the whole global banking system and at the top of that are a handful of interbreeding families going back to the far ancient world who pull the strings of global finance to suit and manipulate their own agenda.

It is the same with governments, transnational corporations, the global media empires, the secret society network, national "security" agencies like the CIA, and so on. They are each compartmentalised on a "need to know" basis and imprisoned by bigger pyramids and at these higher levels these apparently unconnected institutions, businesses, and agencies are all the SAME organisation controlled by the SAME people.



This Illuminati structure of compartmentalised pyramids allows them to organise horrendous attacks like those in New York and Washington while those who actually hi-jacked the planes have no idea who the ultimate "Mr. Big" really is. For instance, the CIA (a mere tool and often fall guy for higher agencies) provided money and other support to the Afghan rebels and terrorist networks that eventually became the Taliban during the Soviet Union invasion.

But the money and support was channelled through Pakistan and elsewhere and while some in Afghanistan would have known where it was coming from, the vast majority would not have known the true source, nor the nature of the global game in which they were being used as mere pawns.

The Illuminati don't control everyone or even nearly everyone in these various organisations, they control those who control the organisation. It is through these few key positions of decision-making that everyone else in the organisation, the pyramid, is told what they will and will not do. It does not take many people to control the actions and policy of an organisation, whatever it may be, if you control the key decision-making positions.

So in terms of the atrocities in the United States, let's start with those who actually hi-jacked the planes. These could have been directly mind-controlled and programmed to do it, or they could have genuinely believed they were serving their religion. Probably a combination of the two. It matters not to the Illuminati, it is the outcome they are interested in.

The hi-jackers would have answered to a network or what they believed were the actual organisers. But from that point they would have lost track of the power game that was playing them like a violin. Who controlled what the hi-jackers believed was their support and organisational network? They have no idea.

The Illuminati do not represent a "side" or a "faction". They CREATE the "sides" and the "factions" and they use them to manipulate the game of divide and rule and centralisation of global power. They operate within the Islamic world as they operate within the "western world".

So as the bigger pyramids envelope the smaller pyramids you reach a point in the structure where the same force is manipulating and organising the horrors in America while also manipulating and organising the RESPONSE to those horrors through their puppets such as Bush, Cheney, Powell, and Blair.

This is how they can work their problem-reaction-solution scams. One of their strands creates the problem (in this case the U.S. atrocities) another strand (the media) tells the people the Illuminati version of the problem (98% of journalists do this unknowingly), and yet another strand offers the "solutions" to the problem, "solutions" which advance their global agenda (in this case a massive erosion of freedoms to "fight terrorism").

You could look at a structure something like this. There will be other elements involved, but it will give you an idea of what I am describing.

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xmarksthespot presents contradictory glib cliches:
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you dont know me. so keep your opinions to yourself boy.
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Those who are frightened of free expression are always in fear of the truth that unfettered discourse will expose.


Edit: Reproducing something without citation is called plagiarism Deano. Tsk tsk.


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xmarksthespot presents contradictory glib cliches:

laughing out loud


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ah good old kidcock, replys to the easiest post.

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kidrock is right

here is bin laden from the video

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even tho in fact he looks like this

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''what fools these sheep are'' kidrock says...right again


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xmarksthespot presents contradictory glib cliches:

Edit: Reproducing something without citation is called plagiarism Deano. Tsk tsk.


sue me


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They're not my words your plagiarising, they're David Icke's although I doubt he'd want to prosecute his most ardent supporter, that and appearing in court proceedings would be an opening for the RAND corporation and the reverse-vampires to assassinate him.

Edit: Silly me I forgot to include the saucer people.


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sue me


Ah instead of giving reason for all his contradicting statements he takes the easy way out and gives one of his not so witty comebacks.


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Ah instead of giving reason for all his contradicting statements he takes the easy way out and gives one of his not so witty comebacks.


theres no contradiction

and still dodging certain posts are we? laughing


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ah good old kidcock, replys to the easiest post.


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and still dodging certain posts are we? laughing


And yet you have yet to acknowledge the points I have made in this thread regarding your posting history. You call people on dodging issues yet you do the same. You call people sheep, yet you are herded in Icke's flock like a willing ewe.

Your hypocrisy is only eclipsed by your dillisions.


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theres no contradiction

and still dodging certain posts are we? laughing
Oh please, you label those who don't agree with you sheep, despite that you don't seem to be able to conjure an original thought and rely on the ramblings of Icke et al. You give the cliched rally cry for freedom of expression, yet whenever someone is critical of you and your opinions, you simply state "You don't know me. Shup up.", "You're blind to the truth." or something akin. You show disdain for anyone who uses what are generally credible sources of information, yet show a fervent wholehearted belief in half-baked unsubstantiated theories thought up by someone living in the basement of his mother's house at 35. There is no contradiction? You are a contradiction.

People on these forums may not know you as you are in person, but they know the character you've created for yourself here. Your representation of yourself on these forums is sufficient for one to make a judgement call on your character at least with regards to these forums. That being said, you're a hypocrite, incredulous to anything but your own ideas (or more rather those you've procured from others), while labelling all those who show skepticism towards your ideas (rightly so), because they have minds of their own and can discern for themselves what to believe, as closed-minded followers.

You have an entire forum for posting conspiracies now. Use it.


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And yet you have yet to acknowledge the points I have made in this thread regarding your posting history. You call people on dodging issues yet you do the same. You call people sheep, yet you are herded in Icke's flock like a willing ewe.

Your hypocrisy is only eclipsed by your dillisions.


you bore me with your posts. ive heard it all before.


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Oh please, you label those who don't agree with you sheep, despite that you don't seem to be able to conjure an original thought and rely on the ramblings of Icke et al. You give the cliched rally cry for freedom of expression, yet whenever someone is critical of you and your opinions, you simply state "You don't know me. Shup up.", "You're blind to the truth." or something akin. You show disdain for anyone who uses what are generally credible sources of information, yet show a fervent wholehearted belief in half-baked unsubstantiated theories thought up by someone living in the basement of his mother's house at 35. There is no contradiction? You are a contradiction.

People on these forums may not know you as you are in person, but they know the character you've created for yourself here. Your representation of yourself on these forums is sufficient for one to make a judgement call on your character at least with regards to these forums. That being said, you're a hypocrite, incredulous to anything but your own ideas (or more rather those you've procured from others), while labelling all those who show skepticism towards your ideas (rightly so), because they have minds of their own and can discern for themselves what to believe, as closed-minded followers.

You have an entire forum for posting conspiracies now. Use it.


ive seemed to have upset you. you know where the door is.

most people dont want to discuss. only insult. its quite obvious.

stay on topic, or leave


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xmarksthespot presents contradictory glib cliches v2.0:
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theres no contradiction

and still dodging certain posts are we? laughing
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Originally posted by Deano
you bore me with your posts. ive heard it all before.
What exactly is your topic. A new poorly designed poll you found on prison planet says that people don't believe the government is tell the whole truth? Shock, horror.


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