well done.The people that defend the official version and still defend it are living in denial and are hiding.They need to stand up and stop being afraid of the truth.thats what they count on is people being too afraid to stand up and live in denail on it.
it simply is not possible to hijack planes in us air space and then fly them around unchallenged for an hour. osama bin laden is the 'patsy' simple as.
the bin laden and the 19 terrorists official story has become the official "history" not by evidence, but by constant repetition.
Funny, I'd think most people would believe that a terrorist organization planned, plotted and carried out the attacks. As that makes far more sense and the evidence is far more reputable than the fringe flock of people that believe some super secret omnipotent group faked all the passenger plane tickets, planted timed charges in the towers, fired a missile at the pentagon and then covered it all up and silenced everyone involved. We need Fox Mulder on this one!
Umm, you do realize that successful hijackings have happened in the past right? Also take into account that the security measures on an airplane were no where near as 'tight' pre 9/11 as they are post.
yeah that first paragraph is a very accurate way of saying it.That sums it up very well.
and to address that paragraph,thats just the thing.Not everybody did remain silent about it.There were many whistle blowers that came out who had prior knowledge of the attacks before it happened months in advance but they were ignored by their superiors.FBI agents went to John Ash-croft warning him about it.He wouldn't give them the time of day.Bush also threatened these FBI agents with arrest when they approached him with evidence they had that their would be terrorist attacks against the towers.Bush ignored multiple warnings by the British secret service and french intelligence as well when they begged him to listen to them.Not to mention that flight controllers at the airports in new york have said they had anonymous warnings given to them beforehand but they could not take them seriously since they anonymous which is standard procedure and that standard normal protocol procedures to intercept the airliners also was not followed that day because they were ordered to stand down. So they obviously did have whistle blowers who didnt keep it a secret.
What I find funny, people that call Bush a lowbrow buffoon, barely having the intelligence to wipe his own arse and then simultaneously link him to what would be the most extensive and prefectly executed cover-up in world history... Either he's a booger eating idiot or he's a criminal mastermind of comic book proportions, can't have it both ways.
yeah successful hijackings have taken place before but there has never been a case where they were allowed to fly around for an hour anywhere near airspace and then be allowed to ram them into towers. Like I said,Standard NORAD airspace patrols in new york and washington were totally ignored that day because they were told to stand down by their superiours.and the fact that nobody was fired instead of having multiple firings and heads rolling like their should have been and instead they had the audacity to promote these people instead makes it obvious that this was just a case of incompetence by these orchestraters.again,as I said before,there were whistle blowers that came forward whose warnings were ignored by their superiours.I was going to say ignorantly ignored,but again its obvious that it wasnt just mere incompetence.Treason is what it was.
And there is valid proof that these "NORAD airspace patrols in new york and washington" were ignored? Oh, doesn't NORAD protect and monitor against military threats, such as missiles, enemy fire jets etc and not commercial flights?
There is a conspiracy, but it isn't what you think. Were there warnings beforehand,that if taken seriously the attacks or some of the attacks could have been stopped? Possibly, but people "dropping the ball" and it being covered up to save face is an entirely different animal than what you and Deano talk about.
you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about...NORAD's air monitoring capabilities are outward looking...meaning that the monitor external threats heading towards the US
they actually got reports from the civil aviation authorities that made them scramble fighters from langley and falmouth
Bin Laden had the intelligence/power/money to orchestrate this.
Terrorists have taken Planes before, they have flown in ISRAELI airspace, don't know if you know this, but Israel is the least likely to stand down, except of course Dictatorships
Also another well known thing, Terrorists threats are sent to the President daily, 99.9999% of the time they have no backing, why would something threatened to be this big have anymore, we're the invincible USA, we're safe here(yet sadly people do still think this, 9/11 was too small to wake people up to the threat of Terrorists/enemy Nations), yes it was a screw-up, but in no way any Government involvement.
We had Fighters up, they were ready to shoot down those Planes, but our friends at NORAD thought they were doing what almost every Terrorist who hijacks a Plane does, Negotiate for the Surrender of this person, give us this, pull out of there, etc etc. They did not expect those Planes to be used as weapons
Also, the Towers had the ability to fall, I had the source from Wiki, that linked to a NIST site, but it mysteriously was deleted, no doubt because Conspiracy Theorists are Vandalizing it, but let me give you the rundown, the Planes knocked down the support structures, causing the building above to sink in, and had the Planes not knocked the structures out of Place, they would have been able to hold up the building
WTC7 was right under 1 and 2, the falling debries damaged it, as well as several buildings around it, whether or not they brought it down with explosives after that is irrelevent, no one was in the building, and according to Firefighters, they left because it was too dangerous to stay.
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I would like to see where it originally appeared.
Probably mommy bin laden and daddy bin laden. But seriously. Once again you go to that "no man in a cave could orchestrate this" defense and it's bullsh*t' I have shown you this man's education, intelligence and history before and it shut you up for a while, that is until you think that no one who saw that before is listening, and then you spout the same old conspiracy rhetoric again. It's just pathetic.
Many planes have been hijacked in the states and around the world and have flown around for longer than an hour. You are wrong.
You are deluded.
Why type someone else' thought and then quote them right afterwards? Think for yourself. What is funny is that you (as shown in the example above, constantly repeat something and hope it sticks.
You have done this before when ever you call people sheep.
When you use the "bin laden's just a man in a cave" argument.
When you post the misquoted qords of fireman from 911.
and on many more occasions.
You repeat arguments, get corrected then repeat them later. You are a joke, and an ever increasingly large hypocrite.
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I think certain figures of power in our Government had fore-knowledge of the attack and kept quiet about it to make sure that it would happen,therefore giving them an excuse to carry out there plan's of world power.
Do I think they planted Detonation Devices in the 2 Tower's and WTC 7...no I don't because it's practically impossible to do with out someone noticing and would require dozen's of people to carry out the plan.
Do I think there was a missle that hit the Pentagon ....NO I don't simply because it's way to risky to use a missle in such a highly populated area,there are to many witness.All it would take is 1 person to get a picture of it on a camera then there cover would be blown.
The only conspiracy is the fact that Certain people knew the attack was coming and took full advantage of there power's to make sure that it wasnt stopped...example is NORAD standing down.
In my view, people looking for alternative sources as to who was responsible for 9/11 have too much time on their hands
Conspiracys point to two things: paranoia and reading into things
I don't say this to cause conflict, but Deano said that everyone can believe what they want, only to then say those people who oppose his theories are "sheep" or "need eye tests"
I mean no arguement or debate, as I am a friend of Deano's, but I just disagree with his views, but such is the power of opinion
As far as i'm concerned, 9/11 was a terrorist attack orchestrated by Bin Laden and the Al-Qaeda.....simple as that!! But this is my view, my opinion, and I sure as hell do not wish to force it onto people
yeh the cia taught him you idiot. and you are a hypocrite for saying that i spout the same stuff yet you also rant on repeating yourself all the time.
can you provide a link to that please
sure
nothing is misquoted. there is even an audio tape for godsake. i havent used the sheep term as often as u want people to believe. and for everytime you say i called you a sheep, i bet i can find a million quotes off you and others who have insulted me in the usual sheep(whoops) manner.
you only think i get corrected because you have your little buddys to back you up. doesnt make it correct.
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Like I said,Standard NORAD airspace patrols in new york and washington were totally ignored that day because they were told to stand down by their superiours.and the fact that nobody was fired instead of having multiple firings and heads rolling like their should have been and instead they had the audacity to promote these people instead makes it obvious that this was just a case of incompetence by these orchestraters.again,as I said before,there were whistle blowers that came forward whose warnings were ignored by their superiours.I was going to say ignorantly ignored,but again its obvious that it wasnt just mere incompetence.Treason is what it was.
