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Rorschach
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From what Wikipedia says it doesn’t look like he’s at Flash level.

Hyper Sonic has only appeared in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. He glows with the colors of the Chaos Emeralds, is surrounded by flashing sparks and leaves afterimages in his wake. His abilities are the same as Super Sonic's, though he can breathe underwater and has the added ability of a devastating lightning attack, aka Sonic Boom. This can be used to "double jump" in any direction and when performed, destroys all enemies on-screen, except bosses, with a bright flash. Unlike the game's Lightning and Flame Shield, the player may choose the direction of Hyper Sonic's second jump by holding a direction on the D-pad.

Hyper Sonic, as well as Hyper Knuckles and Super Tails, is acquired by obtaining the 7 Super Emeralds by completing the Super Special Stages. Note that in order to get the 7 Super Emeralds, a player must first gather all 7 Chaos Emeralds, which then allow access to the Super Emeralds.

The reason for the Super Emeralds and Hyper Forms stems from the fact that Sonic & Knuckles is essentially its own game and has its own set of Chaos Emeralds programmed within it. When combined with Sonic 3, the extra Chaos Emeralds from Sonic & Knuckles now become part of Sonic 3 and as a result, something had to be done about them. Hence, the "Super Emeralds" and the Hyper forms.
Storywise, the Super Emeralds were created when the normal Chaos Emeralds and the Master Emerald were all in the Hidden Palace and they all charged each other, the circulation or infinite power made the Chaos Emeralds grow larger and more powerful, but the power was eventually absorbed back into the Master Emerald, along with the power that Hyper Sonic, Hyper Knuckles, and Super Tails had obtained. (Some fans believe that Chaos Control brought the Super Emeralds to Hidden palace, or that two sets of Emeralds combine to form the Super Emeralds, this comes from the idea of two sets of Emeralds. Which is very clearly stated in the English manuals, and is hinted at in the Japanese ones.)

Hyper Sonic or the Super Emeralds have never appeared or been referenced in any Sonic game since Sonic3 & Knuckles.

It is highly unlikely that they will ever return to the series.

Just as Super Sonic refers to supersonic speeds, Hyper Sonic refers to hypersonic speeds.

Hyper Sonic was also the prototypical name for Sonic's upcoming Wii game, Sonic Wild Fire.

From Wikipedia

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He was later added to the comics as a evolution for Super Sonic.

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Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
Just as Super Sonic refers to supersonic speeds, Hyper Sonic refers to hypersonic speeds.

From Wikipedia

This is what I always thought. Makes sense to me.


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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
He was later added to the comics as a evolution for Super Sonic.
Got any scans?

Cause you post a pic of Nazo and call him Hyper Sonic. stick out tongue

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While some are quick to assume that "Nazo" is simply what the Sonic X version of Super Sonic originally appeared to be, Super Sonic himself appears earlier in the pilot, ruling him out. Others believe he is a Sonic Adventure era version of Hyper Sonic.

They look exactly the same; but Super sonic shines in all the 7 emeralds colors

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Anyways, my friends were calculating how much faster than light Flash was going when he rescued all those people in Chongjin and they come up with 9400000 million times the speed of light if he rescued everyone in pairs. Check it out for yourselves because I suck at math and would never be able to figure out if this was right or wrong.

Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second (thats seven times around the equator in a second)


Total distance flash travelled to bring one set of people to safety - 35 * 2 = 70 miles.
(coz he has to travel back and forth rite)

Therefore TOTAL distance travelled is - 70 * 250,000 people = 17,500,000 miles. (assuming he moved two people at once)

Time taken to do that was - 0.00001 microsecond !!! (and 1 microsecond is 1 millionth of a second !!!)

So time in seconds is - 0.00001 / 1,000,000 = 0.00000000001 seconds (now you know y i got a headache)

So the speed, flash was travelling at was - 17,500,000 / 0.00000000001 = 1750000000000000000 miles per second.

So if the speed of light was 186,000 mile per second.

Flash was travelling at - 1750000000000000000 / 186000 = 9400000000000 times the speed of light.

Which is 9400000 million times the speed of light.

Has Sonic ever been known to run this fast?

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Originally posted by bigbran
hes not a major comic character, he is known for his games, and shows.
...closing.


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Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
Anyways, my friends were calculating how much faster than light Flash was going when he rescued all those people in Chongjin and they come up with 9400000 million times the speed of light if he rescued everyone in pairs. Check it out for yourselves because I suck at math and would never be able to figure out if this was right or wrong.

Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second (thats seven times around the equator in a second)


Total distance flash travelled to bring one set of people to safety - 35 * 2 = 70 miles.
(coz he has to travel back and forth rite)

Therefore TOTAL distance travelled is - 70 * 250,000 people = 17,500,000 miles. (assuming he moved two people at once)

Time taken to do that was - 0.00001 microsecond !!! (and 1 microsecond is 1 millionth of a second !!!)

So time in seconds is - 0.00001 / 1,000,000 = 0.00000000001 seconds (now you know y i got a headache)

So the speed, flash was travelling at was - 17,500,000 / 0.00000000001 = 1750000000000000000 miles per second.

So if the speed of light was 186,000 mile per second.

Flash was travelling at - 1750000000000000000 / 186000 = 9400000000000 times the speed of light.

Which is 9400000 million times the speed of light.

Has Sonic ever been known to run this fast?
logic has no place in comics.


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Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
Anyways, my friends were calculating how much faster than light Flash was going when he rescued all those people in Chongjin and they come up with 9400000 million times the speed of light if he rescued everyone in pairs. Check it out for yourselves because I suck at math and would never be able to figure out if this was right or wrong.

Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second (thats seven times around the equator in a second)


Total distance flash travelled to bring one set of people to safety - 35 * 2 = 70 miles.
(coz he has to travel back and forth rite)

Therefore TOTAL distance travelled is - 70 * 250,000 people = 17,500,000 miles. (assuming he moved two people at once)

Time taken to do that was - 0.00001 microsecond !!! (and 1 microsecond is 1 millionth of a second !!!)

So time in seconds is - 0.00001 / 1,000,000 = 0.00000000001 seconds (now you know y i got a headache)

So the speed, flash was travelling at was - 17,500,000 / 0.00000000001 = 1750000000000000000 miles per second.

So if the speed of light was 186,000 mile per second.

Flash was travelling at - 1750000000000000000 / 186000 = 9400000000000 times the speed of light.

Which is 9400000 million times the speed of light.

Has Sonic ever been known to run this fast?

He flied from our galaxy to an other in a instant.
Didnt tell the distance though

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Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
Anyways, my friends were calculating how much faster than light Flash was going when he rescued all those people in Chongjin and they come up with 9400000 million times the speed of light if he rescued everyone in pairs. Check it out for yourselves because I suck at math and would never be able to figure out if this was right or wrong.

Speed of light = 186,000 miles per second (thats seven times around the equator in a second)


Total distance flash travelled to bring one set of people to safety - 35 * 2 = 70 miles.
(coz he has to travel back and forth rite)

Therefore TOTAL distance travelled is - 70 * 250,000 people = 17,500,000 miles. (assuming he moved two people at once)

Time taken to do that was - 0.00001 microsecond !!! (and 1 microsecond is 1 millionth of a second !!!)

So time in seconds is - 0.00001 / 1,000,000 = 0.00000000001 seconds (now you know y i got a headache)

So the speed, flash was travelling at was - 17,500,000 / 0.00000000001 = 1750000000000000000 miles per second.

So if the speed of light was 186,000 mile per second.

Flash was travelling at - 1750000000000000000 / 186000 = 9400000000000 times the speed of light.

Which is 9400000 million times the speed of light.

Has Sonic ever been known to run this fast?



And yet the narrative said 99% light speed did it not?


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Was it stated that it was a 0,00001 micro second, or a micro second?
If a second than it´s 94 million x the light

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And yet the narrative said 99% light speed did it not?


Yeah it did, which is why it confuses me so much.

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And yet the narrative said 99% light speed did it not?
It said .00001 microseconds.

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Edit; found real warp-speed not Star Treck version:
Warp-speed: 6.0x10^10 km/s
Light-speed: 3.6x10^2 km/s

166666666,6666667 times faster than light = 166,7 times faster than light
Sonic is slight faster, guess Flash is faster.

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But ofcourse we have those cosmic beings who can go anywere in an instant. So Flash is not the fastest.

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erm Flash beat someone who did instantanous travel and did it soundly


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It was comproved that Hyper sonic is the faster character in all fiction.why you wonder...well he just run athe the speed of 1000 parsecs per minute...just that.(if you don't know what parsecs is just Google it..).

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Is that it? That's...not near Wally's best.


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