No. I was talking about what they'd been told. Luke has obviously been told some things about his father and he's built up this image of him. That's what I said.
Leia's been told about her mother and that triggers her memories of her.
No. Because as far as we know, Luke has never been told anything about his mother. He doesn't ask questions about her because he has no starting point. He doesn't mention her until ROTJ.
Leia has been told that her mother died when she was very young. And probably some other things. So naturally she tries to remember. And does.
What you're saying is - (In the real world) If you take two twins. Seperate them on there 4th birthday. They both go and live with seperate famalies and never see each other. Then when they are in their 20's, get them back together and they'll remember the exact same things from when they were 4? That makes NO SENSE to me.
If one of these kids is told about their real parents then thats going to trigger memories of them. i.e. Leia.
If one of the kids is told nothing then they won't. They'll probably create their own version of their mum and dad. i.e. Luke.
The only difference here is Luke and Leia won't be 4 years old, they'll be babies.
I think it is. We know what happens to Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin, Luke, Leia, and Palpatine. But not Padme? Are we just meant to forget about this main character who've we've watched for 3 films? What happens to Padme HAS to be explained. Leaving it hanging, leaves too many questions.
And if you just look at it from a filmaking point of view. Lucas keeps going on about ho ep3 will be a tragedy. Obviously because of Anakin. But if you were him, wouldn't you kill off Padme as well? I think everyone would agree that seeing her die would be sad, so why not do it, rather than leaving it open?
Unless he was keeping her for Ep7,8 and 9, which he's already said he isn't going to do.
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I actually think that she most likely will die on screen. It would make sence if she didn't.
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I still see no reason to think that Luke was told less about his mother than Leia.
And what I was saying was that if you have two babies with super-memories who barely see their mother and ONE of them remembers her, then the other one would as well no matter how much he had or had not been told about her in his or her life. It's not about having the exact same memoeires, it is about remembering the same general things, and whether that makes sense to you or not that is how it works with twins.
It still remains fact that by far the most likely reason for Leia remebering more of her mother than Luke is that she spent much more time with her. Any other explanation is over-complication at this point and even though you want to know it is still not vitally significant to the story to know the exact way she died. I'd like to know, but it is not an utterly glaring omission. I will asume it is a broken heart and stay happy with that.
As Harmax says, the way Leia describes her memoeries definitely suggest memories from beyond infanthood, force-baby or otherwise.
If I were GL, I would not really be so very concerned with Padme's fate; I wouldn't kill her just for the sake of making things more sad. My focus wouldbe the personal tragedy of Anakin and the destruction of the Republic which would be more than enough without throwing more in.
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It's not throwing more in. It's tying up the story of one of the MAIN characters. We're not talking about a background character here. Padme has been at the centre of the plots for the last two movies.
She's been as important to the prequels as Obi-Wan, Yoda and Palpatine. What happens to her has to be told.
If there were no Ep4,5,and 6 then you could leave it open. But there is.
Imagine if you'd never seen Star Wars. Then one day you sit down to watch all 6 episodes starting from TPM. After Ep3 Padme would just dissapear! You'd be waiting for her to show up, like Obi-Wan, Yoda, Palpatine and Anakin/Vader. But she wouldn't and there wouldn't even be an explanation as to what happened to her.
Keeping her alive at the end of Ep3 doesn't make any sense.
Like I say, I WOULD like to know, but considering how much he has to fit into the last episode there are FAR more important things. It's still not 100% essential stuff.
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Leia remebered her mother to be beautiful, kind but sad in EPVI, that will mean she does know her mother and she knew her emotional state.
Maybe Padme knows she will die but it wont happen berfore after ep III, Gl has some challange cut out for him with this problem. But the talk between Luke and Leia clearly shows Leia spent enough time with her mother to remember her. Luke asked Leia if she remebered her mother, so he didnt know if Padme lived long enough for Leia to remeber her. But he clearly knew she was dead.
I had a crazy thought....what if Luke doesn't remember his mother at all ...not even images....because Obi-Wan blocked the memories with a "mind trick".....I know it sounds far fetched, but hey it could happen
ehh Luke has no memories of his mother, he sadi so himself in ROTJ.
"I have no memories of my mother, I never knew her"
If you have no memories there cant be images either
???.....I said it was a crazy theory.....
Luke is not week minded,but then he was just a baby....maybe Obi-Wan wanted the boy to grow up with a "clean slate"...though then Owen and Beru prob would have pretended to be his parents....eh I dunno
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