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Boris
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6000 years old! Lolz!

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6000 years old! Lolz!


I can't get JIA to admit that. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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name one scientific experiment that can be done by a creationist


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There are many things that cant be explained by Evolution, and everything happing over millions of years prospective.

Creation explains everything.


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There are many things that cant be explained by Evolution, and everything happing over millions of years prospective.

Creation explains everything.


Greek mythology also explains everything. Explaining is not important; the truth is important.


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Originally posted by Phenoix12
There are many things that cant be explained by Evolution, and everything happing over millions of years prospective.

Creation explains everything.


Saying "God done it" really isnt explaining everything


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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Greek mythology also explains everything. Explaining is not important; the truth is important.


Greek mythology is all false. There is only one God.

And the Fact of creation is the truth. Evolution does not explain everything!! Creation does!!!


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I think that it is important for everyone to understand that evolution does not require any belief. If it needs belief, then gravity needs belief. The theory of gravity is just a theory, so why aren't Radical Christians up in arms about gravity being taught in schools? Because it is obviously observable. no one disagrees that an apple will fall toward the ground if you drop it, because they can see it happen. One human lifespan is not long enough to see the "Evolutionary apple drop" so to speak.

Creationism, however, is rooted in religious dogma, and , for the most part, is believed in by those who haven't recieved the true facts of evolution. Because there can be definitive proof of evolution, but the story of creationism requires blind faith, all thinking, intelligent people should meausure the facts, and decide to use their brains, not to leave them at the door and follow blindly where another leads.


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Originally posted by Crimson Phoenix
Saying "God done it" really isnt explaining everything


There are facts to it.


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Originally posted by Jbill311
I think that it is important for everyone to understand that evolution does not require any belief. If it needs belief, then gravity needs belief. The theory of gravity is just a theory, so why aren't Radical Christians up in arms about gravity being taught in schools? Because it is obviously observable. no one disagrees that an apple will fall toward the ground if you drop it, because they can see it happen. One human lifespan is not long enough to see the "Evolutionary apple drop" so to speak.

Creationism, however, is rooted in religious dogma, and , for the most part, is believed in by those who haven't recieved the true facts of evolution. Because there can be definitive proof of evolution, but the story of creationism requires blind faith, all thinking, intelligent people should meausure the facts, and decide to use their brains, not to leave them at the door and follow blindly where another leads.


Stop this heresy!!! There's no gravity, God done it!!


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Originally posted by Jbill311
I think that it is important for everyone to understand that evolution does not require any belief. If it needs belief, then gravity needs belief. The theory of gravity is just a theory, so why aren't Radical Christians up in arms about gravity being taught in schools? Because it is obviously observable. no one disagrees that an apple will fall toward the ground if you drop it, because they can see it happen. One human lifespan is not long enough to see the "Evolutionary apple drop" so to speak.

Creationism, however, is rooted in religious dogma, and , for the most part, is believed in by those who haven't recieved the true facts of evolution. Because there can be definitive proof of evolution, but the story of creationism requires blind faith, all thinking, intelligent people should meausure the facts, and decide to use their brains, not to leave them at the door and follow blindly where another leads.


NAME one thing that Evolution can explain that creation can not.


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Originally posted by Phenoix12
Greek mythology is all false. There is only one God.

And the Fact of creation is the truth. Evolution does not explain everything!! Creation does!!!


Christian mythology is also all false. Creation has no fact to it. Please prove me wrong.

Like I said explaining everything is not as important as expressing what is really going on, and Creationism dose not correspond to observations in nature.


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Originally posted by Phenoix12
There are facts to it.


Yeah, cause theres no facts with evolution, which has been proved over and over again...


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Stop this heresy!!! There's no gravity, God done it!!


Yes there is gravity, it cant be disproved. Evolution can be disproved.


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NAME one thing that Evolution can explain that creation can not.


Bacteria that eat nylon

and the fact that the genetic anscestor of those bacteria, when introduced into a nylon rich environment developed the same tendency

oh, and nylon is a man made substance

unless "creationism" to you has the exact same properties of evolution, it is bunk


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Originally posted by Phenoix12
NAME one thing that Evolution can explain that creation can not.


Dinosaurs.


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Originally posted by Phenoix12
Yes there is gravity, it cant be disproved. Evolution can be disproved.


"disproof" is not a real concept in logical discourse

you cannot disprove that there is teacup orbiting the sun between mercury and venus, do we then suppose it exists?

to show any support for creationism you will have to find items that can only be explained through divine intervention, which Behe calls irriducable complexity, which hasn't held up to any real science, but I'm sure you havn't seen too much of that


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Originally posted by Phenoix12
Yes there is gravity, it cant be disproved. Evolution can be disproved.



Go to a museum and look at the fossil records, or look up some evolutionary genetics. Tell me where the "disproof" is in there


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Originally posted by inimalist
Bacteria that eat nylon

and the fact that the genetic anscestor of those bacteria, when introduced into a nylon rich environment developed the same tendency

oh, and nylon is a man made substance

unless "creationism" to you has the exact same properties of evolution, it is bunk


They did not evolve... They Adapted to there environment, there cellular structurer did not Chang, did it?


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Originally posted by Phenoix12
They did not evolve... They Adapted to there environment, there cellular structurer did not Chang, did it?


Phenoix12, how old is the Earth?


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