2. The Watchtower carries authority over the bible (reminds me of Catholicism).
3. You should call god "Jehovah" because that's his name, and it's more respectful to call people by their proper names.
4. Jesus is a created god independent of Jehovah, and so is literally his son as opposed to part of him.
5. Satan was only recently cast out from heaven, and we are living in end-times as we speak... it's just a slower process than many think.
6. Nobody goes to hell. If you aren't a Jehovah's Witness, you just die and that's the end of it. God couldn't be all loving if he sent people to hell, the logic goes.
7. There is paradise after death, but on earth rather than heaven. Heaven's limited to 144,000 specially chosen people to be divine bureaucrats, apparently.
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1. EVANGELISM. denomination free-churches held in movie theatres with 'modern hymns' displayed on a screen. this is already 'accepted' as a part of conservative christianity.
2. sounds cultish. but... who is "in" the watchtower. spiritual leaders? can it be compared as vatican:watchtower pope:spiritual leader? then, obviously smacks of catholicism, but may perhaps be a different interpretation on the church st. paul started..
3. people of the jewish faith call god 'yahweh.' they want to call him by his name. jehovah is [i believe] mentioned in the bible in one of the many prophecies we see in the old testament. handel's 'the messiah' was based off scripture... ' [and he shall be called] wonderful, counselor, all-mighty god the everlasting father, the prince of peace.' jehovah could be aramaic, latin, greek... for messiah.
4. somewhat christian. the "three in one" principle played out a little two far. jesus is often seen as separate from the "father" and the "holy ghost" because he is the only part of god that was both fully divine and fully human. obviously this gets very confusing if you want to totally understand christianity and are not willing to take something on faith. when jesus was on earth, he knew he was god's son, but was yet separate because he did not know [until about age thirty, when he pops up miracle-working in the bible] what his life was supposed to be about. probably didn't know about the crucifixtion until that week, beginning with palm sunday, maunday thursday, good friday, and the resurrection three days later. this further un-synched 'son of god god' makes him seem even more separate.
5. what is recent for god? how long is seven days to create the world? is god's seven days measured to us in billions of years? similarly, how 'recent' is recent for satan? also, moderate to liberal churches play with the idea that we are all going through hell now - our lives on earth are actually in hell, because jesus + cross saved us from the 'real' hell, but we still have to pay for adam +eve + apple.
6. universalism is popular concept, using that same logic. except editing out the jehovah's witness part.
7. complete and utter rubbish. similar to greek system of death - every one goes to hades if you are good, you go to elysian fields. bad go across styx to bad person hell. regular people are reincarnated for another chance to go to elysian fields. also comparable to catholic death system, except lots more crazy. there is no set number for heaven, neither is there a place designated for it.
[sorry, when i think really fast i type really fast and the grammar tends to get lost amongst all the ideas. ]
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I'm not a Jehovah's witness, so I am not very motivated to start any further discussion here, but here's a bit on some things you said.
"Recent" is October 1st, 1914. That's when Satan got cast out.
I don't see why you are so aggressive here, I'd think I made it clear I was just summarizing their beliefs. In JW, there IS a set number for heaven. That's not up for debate. But it's not worse to go to earthly paradise. In fact it's better, because if you're in heaven you spend all your time working as administrators. It's not a sliding scale, not at all, heaven is basically an office building in JW.
Not really, not in this instance, given that Jehovah's Witnesses believe that transfusions of organs and blood are wrong in the eyes of their lord.
They would prefer to let their child die than accept the treatment.
What sort of sick c**t inflicts their beliefs on a child like that...?
That is the sort of shit that you NEVER can apply the term moderate to.
I had Jehovah's marry into my family, converting my Cousin.
Thank f*** that didnt last too long. She saw sense, didnt really believe...
The c***s always wake you up on Sunday knocking at your door, for a religious conversation.*
Like most faith organisations, they sniff out the weak, with their proactive approach, then try pressure them into buying their f***ed perception of the world, lest ye not be saved when the time comes etc etc usual generic brainwashing tactics...
* "Conversation" of course, meaning they blank anything you might say that conflicts with their beliefs, whilst they soley want to convert the weak and vulnerable, of course.
'Sup, Bitches. Long time no see. 'Tis the Blaxican here. I miss you guys and feel like a dumbass for leaving.
Anyways... to put out the wildfire of ignorance with the waterbottle of awesometruth.
I don't know if you're being literal or not but your description is only semi-accurate. Witnesses' sing before and after the meeting sessions, and depending on the length sometimes in the middle.
Definitely Conservative on many things. Intelligent Design is the most accepted idea. "It's possible Jehovah simply created evolution". Science is only disregarded when it directly contradicts Jehovah's existence.
Incorrect. The Ministry has stated many times that ultimately the interpretations it has of the Bible are based off of Human imperfect understanding. Whereas the writing of the bible is strictly Divinely inspired and thus "flawless", the literature produced by the Ministry is not. There have been "retcons" and many retractions of statements in the Ministry's word.
There is ultimately a chairman but there isn't one figure who is responsible for all of the interpretations and the like. The Bible itself is seen as the only worldly thing with ultimate authority.
Pretty much.
Correct. Also Witnesses' interpret certain scriptures to say that No one knows when the world will end, not even the angels and Jesus, only Jehovah himself.
4. There is no holy trinity. There is Jehovah, and his angels, Jesus being one of them. After Armageddon Jesus will become king of Earth, but only Jehovah is worshiped. When you pray Jesus is praised and admired for his sacrifice but only Jehovah is "worshiped".
Just for reference, Witnesses' say "no" to the cross. Assuming the history around him is real, the man died on a wooden pole just like everyone else did. His arms were nailed together above his head. They weren't outstretched.
6. There is "hell", but only for very special people. Judas is going to that hell, I believe. However regular old people like us aren't going to hell. If you don't survive Armageddon, you're dead.
Wrong. There is only a limited number of people who will reside in Heaven. These people are called "The Anointed", and will help Jesus govern the Earthly Paradise after Armageddon. Only 144,000 people will become Anointed. The rest will just live on Earth in Paradise in eternal happiness and peace. If you are judged unworthy during Armageddon then you are killed and that is the end. You gets no Paradise, but you don't go to Hell either. You just cease to exist on all planes.
It's not "sick" if you genuinely believe that you're saving your child from destruction. The Bible states that going against God's wishes to save your imperfect life in this "system of things" shows that you value this life more then the eternal life you're supposed to get. Though, as noted blood plasmas are aloud though full blown transplants aren't. [/quote]
In their defense, they don't brainwash people anymore then the Government and schools and corporations do.
Hope you enjoyed your lesson for the day, kiddos. Tell Robbie I miss his ***** ass too.
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At one time at the start of Christianity during its infancy, by and large the mainstream of society, e.g.: the Romans who still believed in the pantheon gods, and the Jews considered any who were called Christians (those jews that followed in Jesus' example of love, tolerance and a personal relationship with God) were called cultists and his brand of judaism a cult. That's just my opinion though.
Nope its sick/delluded. Period. Since its all silly made up fairy stories designed for control...Its like me saying the child must die cause I like the Star Wars and Vader lightsabred a bunch of kids.
Religion as child abuse.
Anyone with a low IQ enough to see life that way should be sterilised for the good of mankind, imo.
Yes governments and corporations are all a part of the control thing, but it doesnt offer mitigation of these irresponible pricks.
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Tell Robbie I miss his ***** ass too. 
