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By the same token how do you know that it is not? We could give you a list of reason but then you would simply discount them.

so because you have no proof of a divine intervention, you assume that it must be a divine intervention? The simplest explanation (the bible was written by humans) is almost definately the correct one.

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so because you have no proof of a divine intervention, you assume that it must be a divine intervention? The simplest explanation (the bible was written by humans) is almost definately the correct one.

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By the same token how do you know that it is not? We could give you a list of reason but then you would simply discount them.

We have asked you first to prove that God did write the Bible, and instead of trying to prove it, you throw the question right back at us.

Secondly, the Burden of Proof is on you, not us. You make a very Bold and Illogical claim, that God exists and that he wrote the Bible. Since there is no proof of God's existance, since the Bible contradicts itself and the rest of reality, and since it is historically proven that The Bible was written by human beings (at the Council of Nicea), it is not only logical to beleive that God didn't in fact write the Bible, it is most probable that he didn't.

Now, you who have made this irrational and unsupported claim must back it up. The Burden of Proof is on you, not us. Prove to us that God had in fact written the Bible.

Do not be lazy or play these games with us any further.

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We have asked you first to prove that God did write the Bible, and instead of trying to prove it, you throw the question right back at us.

Secondly, the Burden of Proof is on you, not us. You make a very Bold and Illogical claim, that God exists and that he wrote the Bible. Since there is no proof of God's existance, since the Bible contradicts itself and the rest of reality, and since it is historically proven that The Bible was written by human beings (at the Council of Nicea), it is not only logical to beleive that God didn't in fact write the Bible, it is most probable that he didn't.

Now, you who have made this irrational and unsupported claim must back it up. The Burden of Proof is on you, not us. Prove to us that God had in fact written the Bible.

Do not be lazy or play these games with us any further.

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JIA up to his old games of denying everybody and believing in ficticious things

from reading the first page, what if one person did do all those amazing things, it goes without saying that they will go down in history, become immortal in the way they would be remembered for a very long time, if not always by generations of their children

then another person lived life of loving god and of povety but in the end, God did not excist which so much evidence points to

then you die without a peny to your name, if you have not had children then you become nothing, your name would blow away in the wind and if you had children you will leave them without money, and they would become poor

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JIA up to his old games of denying everybody and believing in ficticious things

from reading the first page, what if one person did do all those amazing things, it goes without saying that they will go down in history, become immortal in the way they would be remembered for a very long time, if not always by generations of their children

then another person lived life of loving god and of povety but in the end, God did not excist which so much evidence points to

then you die without a peny to your name, if you have not had children then you become nothing, your name would blow away in the wind and if you had children you will leave them without money, and they would become poor

What evidence is there that God does not exist?

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so because you have no proof of a divine intervention, you assume that it must be a divine intervention? The simplest explanation (the bible was written by humans) is almost definately the correct one.

Using athesitic rationale and logic, how do you know that the Bible did not evolve over billions of years into the complex product that it is?

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Cause.. it's a book?

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Because the bible is a human product. We want our records and stories to stay as close to the original as possible. It has been thousands of years since the first story, the saga of Gilgamesh was written, but that story hasn't changed.

Using athesitic rationale and logic, how do you know that the Bible did not evolve over billions of years into the complex product that it is?
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I don't use ATHEISTIC rationale and logic, because your belief in the a god, whether or not it exists, should not interfere with your cognitive processes. Logic should not be affected by belief.

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What evidence is there that God does not exist?

the thousants of lupeholes and things that have been tought about him

also the evidence that there is no evidence "for" Gods excistence is evidence itself that God doesnt not excist

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the thousants of lupeholes and things that have been tought about him

also the evidence that there is no evidence "for" Gods excistence is evidence itself that God doesnt not excist

But there is evidence you just fail or refuse to recognize and acknowledge it as such. Everything that you perceive with your senses was created by God in a technical sense because God created all matter.

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But there is evidence you just fail or refuse to recognize and acknowledge it as such. Everything that you perceive with your senses was created by God in a technical sense because God created all matter.

God is all.

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But there is evidence you just fail or refuse to recognize and acknowledge it as such. Everything that you perceive with your senses was created by God in a technical sense because God created all matter.

see this -_-_-_- its perfect evidence stating God does not excists, you simply just fail or refuse to recognize and acknowledge it as such

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see this -_-_-_- its perfect evidence stating God does not excists, you simply just fail or refuse to recognize and acknowledge it as such

Wow! -_-_-_- is so profound. laughing

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Wow! -_-_-_- is so profound.

i know, its the undeniable evidence that God does not excist

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i know, its the undeniable evidence that God does not excist

At least the Christian god. wink

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At least the Christian god.

yes it would take a good few more -_- to prove no god excists, not sure i am learned and capable enough of it yet

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But there is evidence you just fail or refuse to recognize and acknowledge it as such. Everything that you perceive with your senses was created by God in a technical sense because God created all matter.

So pain, despair, evil, death and so on?

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