but remember pirates one started out real good. It started out excellent bc it was an introduccion of course of the charaters and it was like a regular old disney story book thing with a lil romance added.
but what hit the box office of the 2nd movie was the incredible twist with jack/liz. So why put will/liz at the end..? wouldnt liz character look bad somehow-i dunno. Point si why put liz/will just like that then ratings down..nope
let just put all this crap as simple crap as possible
T&T said that the 3rd will practically end up like the 2nd or something like that they meant. So im really keeping my faith on this and im sure not gonna keep being negative.
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yeah me too^^
I agree with you.
The movie has made 1 BILLION compared with CotbP 360 million..it was a nice movie..I loved it..but If I saw Jack remain exactly the same in movie 2.. I would have got bored..like many others..and so many people wnt to see it and see it again because of the only new, interesting aspect added into the movie which was Jack/Liz..the only way to top that kind of ending is by having a Jack/Liz end out IMO...people didnt go there to watch Will hunt after his dadda
and its not even as if the Jack/Liz aspect has been milked dry..because she left that on LUST..and the lust still has time to turn to love by the end of the trilogy..its already starting to by the end of movie 2..Jack left it on love IMO..or READY to begin loving her..
I would have said they could have gone back to Will/Liz had they not TOTALLY killed that possible relationship with SO MUCH sizzling chemistry on screen between Jack/Liz..all the symbolic things..I see this as too much to be a blip in the radar for Will/Liz..if it was just that teaser kiss in the middle then I would have bought a will/Liz ending could be on the cards..but Jack/liz has just totally overtaken it and people jept going back to get more..they must realize they can carry this on and STILL keep it interesting..
what we saw with these two was deliberatley made to look 1 million times more interesting and sexy than ANYTHING we have ever seen Will/Liz do onscreen..EVER
I've already seen a story where Jack helps Liz/Will learn to be together..why do I want to see that again?
that kind of story is what made Potc1 do so well 360 million..but the friggin LIZ/JACK is what made DMC hit the 1 BILLION mark!
Last edited by LovelyOne on Sep 14th, 2006 at 12:39 AM
i didnt like will's dad... i almost liked him less than i like will. he was passive and irritating. i was like, its your own flipping fault you ended up on the ship. you and your son are boring and not as clever as captain jack. LOL.
its going to take a whole lot for them to make Will cool. i just dont know they will do it.
jack/liz is interesting and the writers knew that or they wouldn't have written it.
when liz kisses will on the beach when he comes back, they do a close up of norries AND jacks reaction...if they didnt want to signify anything by this then they would not have done it..that part is a big clue for the viewers coz we see jacks reaction....and if they werent going down a jack/liz path then they would not have shown those tell-tale scenes...
3 will have more angst and more sexual tension, and NONE of it will be from will and his blip-on-the-radar-i'm-almost-not-even-really-in-the-movie role.
Gah!! i wish the writers would give us ONE interview where they actually TALK about jack/liz ....but no..they're too clever for that!!!
they know we will analyse the hell outta it and guess their plans for the pairing...which will cause them to re-write the whole thing lmao
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that kiss was SUCH a display!..as soon as she kissed him did you see her turn around and give Jack that little smirk to make him jealous??..that wasnt a nice smile IMO..it was a "look how happy I AM jack" kinda thing..because he basically pulled away friom kissing her only moments before..and thats why I think she's pissed off when the compass points at him again.and thats why she gives Jack that little smirk jafter she kisses Will. Then as soon as she finds out Jack lies..she shoves will aside and its ALL about her and Jack again!! lol..Will is just like the pawn that gets shoved around when these two are playing chess..
this is whats probably gonna make him PISSED
and I agree with every word you sat T.Maria..if they gave that Jack/Liz aspect away..it would ruin the movie for us..cus its still SMOKIN HOT!..but they can give aload of crap away about will/Liz" because no one GIVES A CRAP about that relationship and what they are going to possibly see from it because its as sead as..dirt lol....they are throwing us off the scent for sure IMO.
Last edited by LovelyOne on Sep 14th, 2006 at 12:59 AM
i agree with everything you've just said completely!!!
The writers ALWAYS need to have leverage....they need to know something we don't. If they went around telling people everything, there would be nothing left to know!
i mean;
1. we know about asian pirates
2. we know about will mirroring davy
3. we know about Norries/gov swanns possible deaths!!
4. we've heard all about the Lill/Wiz relationshop till our ears have bled and we've wanted to poke our eyes out with cocktail sticks!!
THESE ARE ALL HUGE AND POSSBILE SPOILERS!!!!
...but do we hear anything on Lack/Jiz???
NOT A SAUSAGE!!!!
so obviously this is the biggest spoiler of all!
I'm shipper happy!! FAITH HAS BEEN RESTORED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OMG THATS SO TRUE!! the only spoiler with these 2 is the keith richards/ Jack/Liz scene ..
what I found HILARIOUS is the fact that the draft script had certain pages missing out of it..Jack/Liz anyone?? Disney OBVIOUSLY gave that out like that to make people think its a Will/Liz thing..and I find it funny how the script ENDs..right where the overshadowing story of the HEART/Liz ends in movie 2..(norrington kidnaps her and has her with the eitc)..so technically they AINT giving anything new away because the JOD situation where Jack puts the heart in the jar and it gets stolen by norrie and the EITC hints what gonna happen to Liz anyway in movie 3..why does the script end right where that little overshadowing heart thing ends in movie 2? .duh cuz disney purposefully released it the script..
they also "accidentally" put Elizabeth Turner on their website and then removed it..its all a game me thinks..
when you read the little tid bits they release about where the love triangle is heading.. they are deliberately made to look Will/Liz..you just look at what they say properly and its all JACK/LIZ..
heck all you have to do is look at certain lines in the movie:
"Jack must find his place in the new world or perish. Not unlike you, Mister Turner. You and
your fianceé face the hangman's noose." - Beckett
"wedding stopped or fate intervenes?" - Beckett
" you seem to be going through a lot of trouble trying to ensure Jack Sparrows freedom ms Swan"
"these are for WILL! not JACK!!" - rar Cleopatra queen of denial..Beckett just cracks up at this reaction..
Norrington can see it
Tia can see whats REALLY happening and all of these people have had jobs or DO have jobs where they have some sort of overseeing power: tia, voodoo lady/secret divinity Calypso, Norrie and his maps Beckett and that HUGE map of the world..EITC oversee everything
all too many hints for there to be NOTHING Jack/Liz in movie 3
Last edited by LovelyOne on Sep 14th, 2006 at 01:22 AM
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Liz is actually WITH jack throughout the majority of movie 3! apparently,..and there have been NO SPOILERS emerging with their scenes yet!
Disney know that they can use that KttC site to spread all the spoilers they want..because they are in league with it..so its probably all controlled "spoilers" coming out..the people there had NO CLUE about that end Kiss in movie 2..it took them by completle surprise!
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I would conceal the whole script as I've said before. They can explain away the compass and everything else but one thing: Liz goes in for another kiss and Jack is eating it up. He's about to die and is being betrayed, yet he still is turned on. No one is that horny, sorry. He's just in love. And Liz may have THOUGHT she was doing it strictly for the others, but she goes in for another one and stops herself when it's almost too late. Hmm, wonder what would have happened had she gone for the other kiss and then the Kracken came? Twilight Zone POTC.
you guys are SOOOOO convincing you should ALL BE LAWYERS. seriously, like 2 hours ago i was convinced will and liz were doomed to be togehter, and now i have hope again!!!!!!!!!!!
Sailorleo, you also are hysterical. i LOVED your norrington shall not die bit. i love norrie. if he dies being heroic, that will be okay with me, but one way or another i want to see him without a shirt in 3... LOL
omg, i love the pictures those create in my mind! *thinks*
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Sep 14th, 2006 12:13 AM
Then as soon as she finds out Jack lies..she shoves will aside and its ALL about her and Jack again!! lol..Will is just like the pawn that gets shoved around when these two are playing chess..
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