Tekken > DOA. No way around that. It also has the better characters except Ryu...because Ryu is...well Ryu.
But Itagaki criticized Tekken's side games like Tekken Bawling & Ball. It was an old interview but he wondered why they bothered with that instead of focusing on the Tekken gameplay and the many clones in the world of Tekken--he obviously said this before Tekken 4 came out and put every clone out of the roster. Then he suggested they focus on bringing more original characters instead of recycling movesets & leave all the sidegames for another team/game to deal with it.
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Now I was bored and decided to read your comment. Where to begin:
Fighters are not meant to have bowling games, nor volleyball games with midget dinosours. I find it funny that you claim DOA is not a proper fighter because it has Ninjas blasting buildings in CGI cut-scenes? WTF? Realism? What's so realistic about an angsty teen with wings blasting people with an energy beam shot from a third eye in his forhead? Oh yeah and that's gameplay not an ending. If DOA goes multiplatform it will be a hit. Do you not know why he switched to the X-box? He has said it countless times: He will develop/work with the most powerful console in the market. That is why he switched from Dreamcast to PS2, to X-box.
You will see how Ninja Gaiden will be an instant greatest hits for the PS3. Ninja Gaiden is a triple A game. And no ammount of dissing or biased opinions is going to change that. I am pretty confident that NG even with it's gameplay being a couple of years old by now is still going to rock those unfortunate gamers that weren't able to play it when it was first released for the X-box. Besides what's not to like about it? AAA game with updated graphics, new content, added story & new weapons + bosses. Go out & reserve it already. I know I would if I had a PS3.
For the record sweat, blood & fatigue do not make a hardcore fighting game. It's the gameplay's depth; and Tekken along with DOA & Soul Calibur have a long way to go before they are able to compete with their Godfather Mr. Virtua Fighter.
PS - Granted it would be nice to watch sweating, blood & fatigue, but it still doesn't make it a fighter. Visuals can only take you so far. Tekken Tag > Tekken 4 for example. And if for fatigue you're talking about Stamina ala Smackdown vs Raw 2007...I don't know stamina can get really annoying in SvR07. If someone tries something like that they better make it good.
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Tekkens better overall, the only thing DOA has over tekken is visuals and potential to be a great fighting game. If itagaki sits down and makes the effort to.
I can agree with that. The problem is, Itagaki seems to be content to just put out good costumes/environments/etc. I don't think he recognizes DOA's untapped potential. It's a shame too because I really like DOA.
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Why is Soul Calibur considered to be a high class among fighting games , Soul Calibur 3 is the single most broken fighting game in the history of mankind.
Ninja Gaiden, is the greatest action game of all time.
Realism is overrated, yes, it helps draw a player into a game at times (Ninja Gaiden). But, when it comes down to it what makes a game good is it's fun factor and replay value.
NG will be good no doubt but when you already have a killing demons game such as Devil May Cry, there is little or no reason to pick up NG -_-, either waym this isn't NG we are discussing, he also switch because DOA wasn't popular on PS2, it sucked, lol, and I happened to be one of the suckers that picked it up, oh well, it was cheap, why not :P Then I got bored of it and sold it off within a week, I wasn't suprised nor phased that it went over to Xbox and became exclusive, quite frankly it can stay right where it is, lol, I vow never to pick up a DOA game again.
VF is an amazing game, and after buying and playing that game (lost it, darnit!) I would know about its awesomeness. But then any fighter fan would tell you that Tekken is also an awesome game, Tekken has been in most arcades, you grow up with Tekken, Tekken 5 was the first Tekken to not enter the arcades excluding silly gameboy spin offs etc. Not even VF was in arcades that often, although I have seen it, but rarely, to be honest, I think VF wins hands down for fighting styles and plots, but Tekken comes in a close second with character designs, fighting styles and pretty much everything else. Tekken is no noob to the fighting genre.
WTF was Itakagi taking, recycled? Isn't that what DOA is It was always a rip off of VF with the most common of ideas and braindead plots. I think Itakagi should grow a brain in his intelligence garden before making stupid arse comments like that, otherwise he'll never gain as many fans as both Tekken and VF have
And to add to that, the side games are there for fun, they aren't meant to be singled out, they come as part of the package to get away from fighting all the time. They don't get rated seperatly or anything, so for Itakagi to come down on that is as stupid a comment as saying that a character in DOA sucks, therefore the whole game must suck, besides, it wasn't Tekken that made a rather pathetic and desperate attempt to make a volleyball game on a nude beach :P
You can play the second with one hand, and still own, its that bad, lol. Nina game may have been awful, but not that bad, lol.
NG is a good game, but I don't even look at it as part of DOA, I look at it as a completly different game in itself, just using a character that happens to be in DOA, the NG Ryu would destroy the DOA Ryu.
But then again, any fighting game creator could have done that
I think with any fighting game creator its possible, you just have to have a good plot to go with it, Nina game was bound to be rubbish, before it came out I knew it was rubbish, the storyline looked cheezy, infact all of it did. I would rather play a game based on Eddie Gordo in underground fighting, Raven, Jin with Devil Jin included or Kazuya. Other character are cool to feature in other games though, I made Marduk in Smackdown, but it would be better if he was already there, same as King.
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Urban Reign is a good action beat'em up by NAMCO, or so I've heard, I've never played it. It has Pual and Law in it though. Anyone thinks that Urban Reign can compete with NG.
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I would rather play a beat them up with Kazuya...with every single boss being Jin...and the options to perform limitless fatalities over and over again.
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It was always a rip off of VF with the most common of ideas and braindead plots. I think Itakagi should grow a brain in his intelligence garden before making stupid arse comments like that, otherwise he'll never gain as many fans as both Tekken and VF have 
