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The U.S. Constitution Mentions Jesus Christ
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God's masculinity is not derived from or predicated on having sexual organs. God does not procreate; therefore, He has no need for a sex organ. One of the purposes of sex is to procreate and reproduce. But God is still a "He."


So, your god is a castrated male? laughing out loud


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So, your god is a castrated male? laughing out loud


No. My God simply has never possessed a sex organ because He does not procreate Himself.


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No. My God simply has never possessed a sex organ because He does not procreate Himself.


When a male child is born with no sexual organs, it is raised as a she. If god has no sexual organs, then he, would be a she.


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JIA what is your definition of what make a male or female? It would make more sense that God is female because the only thing that gives life is a female not a male.


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When a male child is born with no sexual organs, it is raised as a she. If god has no sexual organs, then he, would be a she.


You cannot be this unlearned (but then again you may be).

We are not talking about a human being, we are talking about God Who has no need for a sex organ. He does not even fit the situation that you describe. Manness is based on having certain characteristics (in reference to humans) and womanness is based on having certain characteristics (in reference to humans).

But God is not a man (i.e. God is not a human being) so He does not have to meet the above criteria in order to be a He. God's masculinity is intrinsic not externally based as our gender is as humans.


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You cannot be this unlearned (but then again you may be).

We are not talking about a human being, we are talking about God Who has no need for a sex organ. He does not even fit the situation that you describe. Manness is based on having certain characteristics (in reference to humans) and womanness is based on having certain characteristics (in reference to humans).

But God is not a man (i.e. God is not a human being) so He does not have to meet the above criteria in order to be a He. God's masculinity is intrinsic not externally based as our gender is as humans.


That (the above) is why I do not call God a "He".


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JIA what is your definition of what make a male or female? It would make more sense that God is female because the only thing that gives life is a female not a male.



Read the post below this one. Not to mention all throughout the Bible God is called "He," "Father," etc. In fact, Jesus never called God "Mother," He invariably referred to God as His Father.


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Read the post below this one. Not to mention all throughout the Bible God is called "He," "Father," etc. In fact, Jesus never called God "Mother," He invariably referred to God as His Father.
Doesn’t make a difference, if he is not a man than he is not a “he”, if you definition of a he is just by characteristics than a masculine woman would be considered a he by your logic. 2000 years ago people knew diddly squat about gender and there is not just a black and white when it comes down to male/he or female/she.


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Doesn’t make a difference, if he is not a man than he is not a “he”, if you definition of a he is just by characteristics than a masculine woman would be considered a he by your logic. 2000 years ago people knew diddly squat about gender and there is not just a black and white when it comes down to male/he or female/she.


You're still wrong. Your whole logic is flawed because your premise is ill-based. You cannot assign God the same category as you do humans because God is not a human. He transcends humanity. But He is a He intrinsically, not because of something else. In other words, God's masculinity is not dependent on external circumstances it is Who He is by nature. But we are not he/she intrinsically, we must have the goods.


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That (the above) is why I do not call God a "He".


I'm waiting for JIA to respond.


laughing I'm sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face. laughing out loud


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I'm waiting for JIA to respond.


laughing I'm sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face. laughing out loud


Your sense of humor seems to be eccentric. I don't understand your humor or your post. What am I supposed to respond to?

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You're still wrong. Your whole logic is flawed because your premise is ill-based. You cannot assign God the same category as you do humans because God is not a human. He transcends humanity. But He is a He intrinsically, not because of something else. In other words, God's masculinity is not dependent on external circumstances it is Who He is by nature. But we are not he/she intrinsically, we must have the goods.
No my logic is sound because it is you that is giving God a human concept of gender by classifying him as a “he”. This is a purely human concept, if he is not either male or female than he is not a “he” or “she” but by calling him this you are trying to humanize him. Everything that humans call a male/he is based on the chromosomes, organs and hormones.


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No my logic is sound because it is you that is giving God a human concept of gender by classifying him as a “he”. This is a purely human concept, if he is not either male or female than he is not a “he” or “she” but by calling him this you are trying to humanize him. Everything that humans call a male/he is based on the chromosomes, organs and hormones.


Wrong again. I did not give God anything that the Bible (His Word) has not already given Him. I get everything (i.e. all of my spiritual revelation/knowledge about God) from the Bible.

So, God is still a He whether you believe it or not. So is Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Perhaps some (not all) angels are she but they too are neuter.


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Your sense of humor seems to be eccentric. I don't understand your humor or your post. What am I supposed to respond to?

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That is clear, you don't understand. Let me help you; I was playing like I was you. wink


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Wrong again. I did not give God anything that the Bible (His Word) has not already given Him. I get everything (i.e. all of my spiritual revelation/knowledge about God) from the Bible.

So, God is still a He whether you believe it or not. So is Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Perhaps some (not all) angels are she but they too are neuter.
Did you actually think that when I was saying that you gave him the “he” it was you? laughing However you are defending this logic so it still applies to you.

Also you do not get all of your spiritual knowledge from the Bible because you use knowledge of today to explain things in the Bible that are not in the Bible.


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That is clear, you don't understand. Let me help you; I was playing like I was you. wink


But if you were "playing like you were me" as you put it you would not believe in fiction. The Bible is not fiction.

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But if you were "playing like you were me" as you put it you would not believe in fiction. The Bible is not fiction.

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Your right it is science fiction wink


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Your sense of humor seems to be eccentric. I don't understand your humor or your post. What am I supposed to respond to?

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Still waiting for Shakyamunison to respond to this post.


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Your right it is science fiction wink


It has scientific facts in it but does not contain any fiction.

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Did you actually think that when I was saying that you gave him the “he” it was you? laughing However you are defending this logic so it still applies to you.

Also you do not get all of your spiritual knowledge from the Bible because you use knowledge of today to explain things in the Bible that are not in the Bible.



The Bible is a spiritual Book in terms of what it reveals; therefore, all of my "spiritual" knowledge does come from the Bible. I simply use extrabiblical information periodically to confirm what the Bible already states.

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