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Are Jesus and Muhammad (i.e. Mohammed) Alike?
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Considering with the varying interpretations of the Bible alone, God would be the biggest confuser around. But you can always hide behind "human error".

You would think that with God's omnipotent powers, God would let everyone know what the true faith is; then let each person choose for themselves if they wise to follow as per the "free will" clause.


God has announced to the world through His Word made flesh (Yeshua HaMashiach or Jesus the Christ), and through His Word (i.e. the Bible) that He is the only true God.

God has in these last days spoken to us by His Son whom He has appointed Heir of all things, through Whom also He made the worlds.


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Are you denying that there are similarities between Christianity and Islam because there are also differences? What a flawed argument.


Similarities are irrelevant and inconsequential.

What matters are the core constituents that characterize or define something.

In this case I have provided some of the ample, core constituents that separate and distinquish Christianity from all others.





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No. We are nothing alike.

My God (YHWH) has a Son Who died for Muhammad's sins.

My God is a Trinity i.e. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

My God died on a cross by a method of death known as crucifixion.

My God rose from the dead.

My God's Son is called Yeshua (Jesus) Ha (the) Mashiach (Messiah or Christ )



Neither Muhammad nor allah believes any of this.


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God has announced to the world through His Word made flesh (Yeshua HaMashiach or Jesus the Christ), and through His Word (i.e. the Bible) that He is the only true God.

God has in these last days spoken to us by His Son whom He has appointed Heir of all things, through Whom also He made the worlds.


Yet there are still many interpretations of "his word".

Last days? You mean 2k+ years ago. Again, what I said, with God's omnipotence, God could let everyone know the truth faith at will, instantly, not some Jewish carpenter long ago.


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Thousands of years, but so?

Proof that God didn't speak to Muhammad as God spoke with Abraham?


Additionally, M (peace be upon him) used some of the OT as part of his work.

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But you can always hide behind "human error".


Yes, like Mormons do.
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You would think that with God's omnipotent powers, God would let everyone know what the true faith is; then let each person choose for themselves if they wise to follow as per the "free will" clause.


Yes, like the Morm...

nevermind. laughing


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Yet there are still many interpretations of "his word".

Last days? You mean 2k+ years ago. Again, what I said, with God's omnipotence, God could let everyone know the truth faith at will, instantly, not some Jewish carpenter long ago.


I would say that is a higher view of God.

I agree 100% but I'm not clear on your conclusion. I think it might be different than mine.


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I would say that is a higher view of God.

I agree 100% but I'm not clear on your conclusion. I think it might be different than mine.


I'm just asking the obvious, if God is omnipotent and wishes all humans to choose the right path, why doesn't God just let everyone know what that exactly is instead of picking out one man to talk to, who often happens to be alone and then having that one guy spread the word.

It's certainly within God's ability to do so, would be nothing compared to creation.


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I'm just asking the obvious, if God is omnipotent and wishes all humans to choose the right path, why doesn't God just let everyone know what that exactly is instead of picking out one man to talk to, who often happens to be alone and then having that one guy spread the word.

It's certainly within God's ability to do so, would be nothing compared to creation.


Yes, those puzzle pieces don't fit.


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No. We are nothing alike.

My God (YHWH) has a Son Who died for Muhammad's sins.

My God is a Trinity i.e. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

My God died on a cross by a method of death known as crucifixion.

My God rose from the dead.

My God's Son is called Yeshua (Jesus) Ha (the) Mashiach (Messiah or Christ )



Neither Muhammad nor allah believes any of this.



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Neither Muhammad nor allah believes any of this.


You do realize that "Allah" is just a word for "God", the same Abrahamic God. It's fine if you believe Islam is from the devil or whatever, but stop being a moron and trying to separate the two.


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OBJECTION!!! Allah is a moon god. Abrahamic God is Ilah. Allah is like ''The God''. The God of desert pirate Mo...the desert pirate God.


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While I believe Muhammad was a vile man who did some awful things, lead billion people astray from humanity, pillaged, murdered, raped, enslaved and ravaged communities, this kind of thing is repulsive. Burning in hell for eternity. No.
Even Mo shouldn't be in there forever.

He should be reborn as a Muslim woman then feel the wrath of his teachings, until he learns his lesson.


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While I believe Muhammad was a vile man who did some awful things, lead billion people astray from humanity, pillaged, murdered, raped, enslaved and ravaged communities, this kind of thing is repulsive. Burning in hell for eternity. No.
Even Mo shouldn't be in there forever.

He should be reborn as a Muslim woman then feel the wrath of his teachings, until he learns his lesson.


Yes, there are worst things then hell.


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OBJECTION!!! Allah is a moon god. Abrahamic God is Ilah. Allah is like ''The God''. The God of desert pirate Mo...the desert pirate God.


Yet when Mohammad (peas be upon him) created Islam, the Abrahamic god was used and he used the name "Allah".

He essentially did to the Jews/Christians what the Christians had previously done to the Jews centuries before, taken aspects of their religion and remolded into the newer/better version ie God's newest instructions.

Speaking of which, this seems to be the common course with religion, borrowing and reshaping. From the ancient Egyptians and possibly earlier.


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...Mohammad (peas be upon him)...


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lead billion people astray from humanity


What do you mean by leading billions astray from humanity?


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He should be reborn as a Muslim woman then feel the wrath of his teachings, until he learns his lesson.


lol

K. What needs to happen is you need to become omniscient and then judge humans upon their death. laughing


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You do realize that "Allah" is just a word for "God", the same Abrahamic God. It's fine if you believe Islam is from the devil or whatever, but stop being a moron and trying to separate the two.


No. The name allah means "god" but it is not a reference to the same God of the Bible i.e. the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

The God of the Bible has a Son.

The god of the Quran (i.e. allah) does not have a Son.

This is a conspicuous contradiction; Hence, the God of the Bible and the god of the Quran cannot be the same.

It is impossible for for the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to be the same as the god of the Quran.


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...The God of the Bible has a Son...


Any god that has a son is not a God.


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Any god that has a son is not a God.


With all due respect Shakyamunison you do not understand God.

God is a Trinity.

God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit according to His Book the Holy Bible.


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With all due respect Shakyamunison you do not understand God.

God is a Trinity.

God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit according to His Book the Holy Bible.


Polytheism!


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