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T&T on the love triangle.
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LovelyOne
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*having a brain meltdown with all this depth lol*.

I dont think..she is making them follow this path Will's destiny is there and always has been IMO and Jak's and Liz's. Jack and Will go to her at their own choice and she has no part in that choice. so the outcome was bound to happen anyway (if that makes sense)

Here in the hut she doesnt actually bend anything..everything just plays out naturally..she just says will has a destiny doesn't tell him anything about it..they then decide to go looking for the Dutchman and as she throws her crab claws down she says it again.

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Technically, only Jack is going there on his own choice. Will is only going because Tia can possibly help them on his quest to save Liz. And his destiny may not have always been there...although I do wonder at his incredible luck. wink

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aye thats true...but its what makes Will go for Jack and thats Beckett..hmm

I often wonder where the heck Jack's luck comes from and why it spectacularly runs out as soon as he goes to see Tia again

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Oh well, as for Jack's luck, it's just because he's Jack and that's how things are. He goes from one mess to another. It's how he lives. big grin

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Jack's luck comes from being the hero. He and Indiana Jones should get together seriously, because I think their kid would be immortal. Just slightly clumsy and a little too knowledgable about history. Man, my freshman year in college I took ancient history because I thought my professor would be like Indiana Jones. That's like wanting to take navigation thinking the professor will be like Jack.

Jack has no more luck than any classic hero. Hell, I think he has as much luck as Harry Potter.


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On the DMC website, the game says that Jack's hat might be responsible for his super natural luck. That's a little too like Indiana Jones for my taste, but whose to say the game isn't revealing an important clue?

After all, the monkey throws Jack's hat into the water. The Kracken ingests it, Jack winds up on the cannibal island and is captured. He runs into Will again, which though at the moment seems like a lucky thing, but is it?

After all, it's because of his encounter with Will that he winds up eventually crossing paths with Elizabeth again, which leads to his untimely demise.

Come to think of it, after he looses the hat, his pretenatural method of making decisions that are of no harm to anyone seems to be lost. Though his choice to trade Will to Davy Jones prolonged his life, it worked to his deteriment when Will reappears and exposes his ill-fated dealings to Elizabeth, unlucky in that his dealings seem to motivate her to chose Will instead of him at the end of DMC and in that this is what motivates her to chain him to the mast.

His hat returns to him at the end of DMC, and as luck would have it, Tia Dalma has revived Barbossa to help the crew rescue him from the sands of Puragtory.

As you can't dismiss things like the compass, the cannibal island scene, or even the dog, there was a reason why the writers had the monkey throw Jack's hat into the ocean.


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All I'm saying is that those kinds of coincidences don't happen all that often to real people. True, Jack is often also unlucky. He is somewhat of a clutz and he is usually captured and sometimes beaten at his own game once in a while, but he's a movie hero. Think of all the movies where the hero is dodging bullets and you just know that in real life, an entire round probably would have hit him and killed him.


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Liz is also weraring his misssing hat..or something that symbolises it..and its weird how in the last scene she doesnt wear it anymore and Jack gets it back

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Liz and Jack forever and ever man. Totally OT, but I wonder how Will is going to react when he finds out what Liz did to Jack. I wonder if he will be mad, or understand, or be happy, or what... wink

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The hat could be supernatural, or it could have something important attached to it. *shrug*


Also, I rather viewed the lost hat as a slow stripping away of Jack's character, leaving him bare to the bones. It was interesting to see what he turned out to be like when he had nothing left.


It also made Norrington an even more interesting foil, since he too was stripped of everything, and yet the two men made two completely different choices.


Then you add Will into the mixture, and his reactions to losing everything will probably be more shocking (given that his character has always seemed so steady, it WOULD have been surprising to see him become so dark. We just cheated. big grin ) than what Norrington did.


The three men are really fascinating to watch. TnT did a fantastic job of making all three of them so similar, yet also different enough to still be interesting.

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OMFG OMFG>>>amm freaking out..all my answers hinder on this 1 question!

sorry thats random but am waiting on something that could explain it ALL to me about Jack..Cotbp - DMC - AWE..all of it!

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WHAT? WHATS GOING ON? Please don't do this to me I'm going to have a heart attack Happy Dance


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I think the most interesting thing Terry has said..IMO is to the girl who said she hated DMC and the character development etc..

Terry said "if you hate DMC..you are most likely to utterly loathe AWE"

does this mean its the same kind of development we are going to see with all the characters?

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i think so it makes sense

*finngers crossed*


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Originally posted by Mistypirate
WHAT? WHATS GOING ON? Please don't do this to me I'm going to have a heart attack Happy Dance
hey! i was in a hospital once, and i saw a doctor do this! hold on.... *siren-like noise gets louder*.... CLEAR!!! laughing out loud


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Originally posted by LovelyOne
I think the most interesting thing Terry has said..IMO is to the girl who said she hated DMC and the character development etc..

Terry said "if you hate DMC..you are most likely to utterly loathe AWE"

does this mean its the same kind of development we are going to see with all the characters?
me thinks so, although i think norrie babe is gonna revert back to his dutiful, now sympathtic self


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Re: T&T on the love triangle.

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I'm going to be honest here..movie 1 Jack/Liz is developing into something in DMC ..movie 1 Will/Liz isnt really developing into anything in movie 2..
now THAT i totally agree. IMO it's almost as if W/E are going further and further apart.


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hey! i was in a hospital once, and i saw a doctor do this! hold on.... *siren-like noise gets louder*.... CLEAR!!! laughing out loud


For real? OMG did the person died?


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For real? OMG did the person died?
laughing of course not!


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Re: Re: T&T on the love triangle.

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now THAT i totally agree. IMO it's almost as if W/E are going further and further apart.



Completely agree, they are falling apart, and its hard to rebuild a relationship like this. So there is No way on earth that their relationship is going to work out.


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