God has no problem sending them directly to where they will be "tortured."
God like the mafia boss. He doens't do the dirty work , but is the ring leader. How many Jews did Hitler kill? You get my point.
The concept of Satan has changed much over time. I find the early Judaism interpretation better than the current one, but an Abraxian interpretation is the most valid in my opinon.
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*["...Jesus said to them 'love your neighbor as yourself, unless he is gay, black, nonchristian, poor, athiest or from another country.'"]
***Jesus said no such thing...and you are a LIAR...but then it is not surprising that you are a LIAR...because, in your case, it is a FAMILY trait...for your FATHER was a LIAR and MURDERER before you...and the "apple never falls far from the tree"...to wit: "Ye are of your father the DEVIL, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a MURDERER from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a LIAR, and the father of it" [John 8:44].
This is what the Lord Jesus Christ REALLY said: "Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy. But I SAY unto you, LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, BLESS them that CURSE you, DO GOOD to them that HATE you, and PRAY for them which DESPITEFULLY USE you, and PERSECUTE you" [Matthew 5:43-44].
It is NOT a SIN to be BLACK, POOR, or FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY.
IT IS A SIN, however, to be a HOMOSEXUAL, ATHIEST, or a NONBELIEVER. Here is what the Bible says about them:
(1)HOMOSEXUALS: "Know ye not that the unrighteous SHALL NOT inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate {HOMOSEXUALS], nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God" [1 Corinthians 6:9-10].
(2)ATHIEST: "The FOOL hath said in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good" [Psalm 14:1].
(3)NONBELIEVER [nonchristian]: "Jesus saith unto him, 'I am the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE; NO man COMETH unto the FATHER but BY ME" [John 14:6]. BOTTOMLINE: ALL homosexuals, athiests, and nonbelievers in Jesus Christ will PERISH unless they REPENT and BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ as LORD and SAVIOUR.
No, he's saying that the word "effeminate" means "homosexual," when, if I recall correctly, that's the one that is better translated as "soft" or "malleable."
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***Sir:
I do NOT have the power to read minds. That being said...I DO have the power to read words...and took issue with yours. If I am wrong in my "perception" of what you said, I DO apologize for it. If NOT, my statement stands.
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*["You are a hateful person. There nuthin difrent about yer religion. all religins are the same an are difrent roads to the same god."]
***There are many religions in the world. However, they do not all teach the same thing. In fact, many of them contradict each other. So no...they can't all be true and it cannot be said that each is a different path to God. To get to the point...all other religions besides Christianity are FALSE.
If Jesus is who He said He was [God in FLESH], then whatever He says is authoratative and true. He said that He was the WAY...the TRUTH...and the LIFE...and NO ONE comes to the Father EXCEPT THROUGH HIM [John 14:6]. So then...according to Jesus...ANY OTHER WAY is NOT TRUE.
Christianity bases its truth and its doctrine on the WORD OF GOD [the Bible...BOTH the OT & NT]. In the Bible, Jesus claims to be the ONLY WAY. Either Jesus is a LIAR...a LUNATIC...or He is LORD. NO ONE else in history, except Jesus, has FULFILLED detailed prophesies...performed many miracles before EYEWITNESSES...rose from the DEAD...and was SEEN by untold hundreds AFTER He AROSE. Jesus Christ is UNIQUE among men.
Those of us who ARE Christians...have TRUSTED in what Jesus Christ has said and claimed for Himself. In point of fact...we have placed our Eternal future in His hands...we are His sheep...and He ALONE is our SHEPHERD. Like it or not...Jesus is the one who said HE WAS THE ONLY WAY. It is NOT the Christians who are being "narrow-minded"...it is Jesus. Therefore to say that there are "other paths to God" means that Jesus was wrong. Either Jesus IS who He said He was...and what He said is TRUE...or He is false.
BOTTOM-LINE: This is a choice you must make...to TRUST what He said...or REJECT His words.
Finallly you say something that is right. ALLL religions do have contradictory parts, JUST LIKE CHRISTIANITY.
ANd, christianity like ALL OTHER religions, is NOT perfect.
And please dont go quoting a book that was written by people who didn't even know that 80% of the planet existed without them knowing it.
For an educated man of science( you claim to be an engineer) your inability to try to acknowledge that other religions have more in common with yours is simply astounding.
tell me, were you like this before or after you did your degree?
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*[Finallly you say something that is right..."]
***Really? Who are you...and what are your credentials that you can appropriate to yourself the qualifications to be the arbitor of what is right and what is wrong? Everything that I assert on this board I back up with what I claim is my authority [i.e., the Scriptures]. You may not agree that they are THE authority...but they are MY AUTHORITY and I am entitled to use that authority. You, on the other hand, cite NO AUTHORITY...only your OPINION predicated on NOTHING...absolutely NOTHING...so I will summarily DISMISS them out of hand.
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*["ALLL religions do have contradictory parts, JUST LIKE CHRISTIANITY."]
***Since you have made the claim...prove for our internet audience that there are such contradictions...and detail them for us.
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*["ANd, christianity like ALL OTHER religions, is NOT perfect."]
***Au Contrare...Biblical Christianity IS PERFECT for it's AUTHOR is PERFECT...to wit: "All Scripture is given by INSPIRATION of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for REPROOF, for CORRECTION, for INSTRUCTION in righteousness: That the man of God may be PERFECT, throughly furnished unto all good works" [2 Timothy 3:16-17]...and, again: "And being made PERFECT He [Christ] became the AUTHOR of ETERNAL SALVATION unto all them that obey Him" [Hebrews 5:9].
*["And please dont go quoting a book that was written by people who didn't even know that 80% of the planet existed without them knowing it."]
***You don't dictate to me what I will quote and what I will not...do you understand that? We, in the United States, have the liberty to read, write, and express whatever opinion we desire...and we don't take kindly to guys like you who tell us what we can and cannot say...got it?
It is not germaine to the integrity of the Scriptures whether people did or "didn't even know that 80% of the planet existed without them knowing it." Truth is not determined by numbers or irrelevant data.
*["...your inability to try to acknowledge that other religions have more in common with yours is simply astounding."]
***It is not my "inability" to acknowledge the "commonality" of other religions with Christianity that really bothers you [for there is NO "commonality"]...it is the "message" that Christianity espouses and the Person of Jesus Christ that OFFENDS you [i.e., that YOU are a LOST sinner on his way to ETERNAL damnation and that Jesus Christ is God's ONLY PROVISION for your SALVATION]. THAT is your REAL PROBLEM with what I say...the EXCLUSIVENESS claimed by Christianity over ALL the other FALSE religions of the world.
*["...tell me, were you like this before or after you did your degree?"]
***After. When I was in grad school, I realized the imperfection of the hypotheses presented by various academicians in their quest for objective truth...they were biased and tainted with objectivity...so that any evidence that they presented to their peers was immediately suspect. There is no such thing as perfection in science...it is blemished by man's inability to acknowledge that he is NOT the final arbitor of what perfection is or how he can attain that perfection.
To attain perfection...perfection must be clearly defined...and NO human can do that...nor ever will be able to do that. To have perfection there must be a PERFECT SOURCE...and that source must be the one that defines PERFECTION...and God is the only one that can do that for He alone is that PERFECT SOURCE.
In my studies [outside of the university of enginneering], I discovered the SOURCE of God's truth...a source that the Jews discovered 5,000 years before I did...the Scriptures. In my years since graduation, I saw the interlink between the OT & the NT...where the OT foretold the coming of the Messiah...and that FULFILLMENT in the NT. Jesus is the PERSONAGE the the OT spoke of...and He is the God of Israel for those of us who TRUST Him.
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ADDENDA:OOOOOPS! I thought I was addressing a "male." Sorry I didn't check out who you were prior to the post...that you were, indeed, a "female." Sorry for that oversight.
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