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Will deserves a chance at Liz
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LovelyOne
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Originally posted by Mistypirate
I hope is emotional, At the end of DMC he fought the Kraken right, and I don't if you read what lovely posted about Jack loosing something in purgatory or at the end of DMC. And she also said something about if Liz really loves and cares about him she wont be able to leave him like that. Like what? We know that after this happens we will see Jack turn more darker in a way.


Ok he presumably killed the Kraken, but my question is how the heck did he get out in one piece?



No I mean at the end of DMC she killed a good man and she feels she needs to bring him back..and not just a good man..A good man she "may well love"

and the thing about "a part of herself she cant live with" she tends use his emotions as a weakness against him" which is ultimatley what kills the good man that she may well love. I think thats the thing she cant live with because she might love him now and its really woken her up to something about Jack and how she feels. Again imagining that AWE doesn't exist you would think she had chosen Jack because she loves him and she wants him back...yet we dont see that closure happen on screen, you EXPECT it to happen

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no i dont think its that at all well kinda i mean she feels bad because yes she did kill a man and pretty much no human being can live w/ that

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she's killed other pirates during the battle in 1, and been the cause of loads of deaths for the British navy in 1 as well. She's ruined Norrington's life, put her father in danger, and would have no qualms shooting Beckett, killing Davy's minions, etc.

its not just about killing someone. its about killing Jack.

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well i cant help w/ the whole jack thing but w/ everything else she put everyone in danger for love and i think thats worth fighting for

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Originally posted by LovelyOne
No I mean at the end of DMC she killed a good man and she feels she needs to bring him back..and not just a good man..A good man she "may well love"

and the thing about "a part of herself she cant live with" she tends use his emotions as a weakness against him" which is ultimatley what kills the good man that she may well love. I think thats the thing she cant live with because she might love him now and its really woken her up to something about Jack and how she feels. Again imagining that AWE doesn't exist you would think she had chosen Jack because she loves him and she wants him back...yet we dont see that closure happen on screen, you EXPECT it to happen



LOL Oh Never mind what I just said, I was just being stupid. That would be dumb for me to think that that would actually happen.


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,... so this all means what???????????????


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This means that all three characters are going to have a horrible death at the end of AWE.

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LOL nice way to put it...ok not really but it was still an intresting way to answer.

as for what crazychic said..I believe in that..I really and truely believe in that but is that what true love is? ruining lives and killing people and leading others on just so u can be with the person u love? if liz is the kind of person who does that (and doesn't do it to SAVE the person she loves but to BE with him) than she doesn't even deserve jack OR will!

Why would he flirt with jack like that when he was already helping her get will back? she had nothing to gain...and nothing to loose for that matter.


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well thats true and i didnt say that her killing people is the right thing to do even for love but everyone expresses their feelings in different ways i agree with myself too

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ya,.. I know what you mean wink


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no u dont u dont have feelings lol

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she killed Jack for many reasons..

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no u dont u dont have feelings lol


no I ment you would know wouldn't you!!!


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but i suppose all the feelings developing between Jack and Liz in DMC were all false and AWE ends W/E..

I cant imagine the audience actually accepting that I think they are making a huge mistake..

if that is the ending they should have never opened a can of worms like they did with DMC..

AWE could have ended W/E in any other way but no they had to be greedy and grab money, they milked the J/E possibility and used Jack as a means for them to get together in thr 3rd..

Sorry Disney but how dare you use my favorite character like that...and I hope the majority of the audience will leave feeling the same way and I hope you dont get your 1 billion again and you dont get your successful DVD sales..I hope Spiderman beats your ass at the box office because in that story they dont **** about with the audience. If a lead character shows an interest in a female it revolves around them both for MOST of the franchise..It doesnt dangle the possibility of him possibly getting MJ in the next installment then Peter realises "no I'd rather go off with the two whores I met whilst swinging around the city a few years back"

I feel used now..as if I've been sucked into a franchise because of an aspect I love and they are going to snatch it away.

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of oarse i would turbo i learned from u

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.... I feel that too even though I don't exactl;y LIKE what they did w/ Liz an Jack


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okay, here is my manifesto.

its quite possible we exaggerated the depth of feeling between Jack and Elizabeth. but no one can deny the blatant hints in the film, or the sizzling chemistry, or the intriguing idea of it all.

we always knew there was a chance we wouldnt get our ending. we chose to support it anyways. We still dont know what the ending is, so I for one am going to keep supporting our ending.

T and T, despite what we may feel at times, arent idiots. they have a plan. they arent telling anyone the plan. in the long run, the amount of info we have amounts to very little.
i really do trust that they have a plan. they would not have pushed things that far unless they had a slam bang ending for it... an ending with real resolution. look at all their other films. ALWAYS satisfying resolution. things are ALWAYS tied up. they are not ambiguous ending people, or tragic ending people.

all that to say, they wont snatch something that is so powerful. they may change it a bit, or cause it to grow in a way we dont expect, but they wont just pretend it never happened.

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true plus they could be playing a poker stunt on us!


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thankyou kate and we did exaggerate

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,.. alittle


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