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tee_pirategirl
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yea I agree with you on that..actually I think it will be WE BUT I don't think they'll ACTUALLY end up together in the technical form of it I just think it will be WE themed but....that doesn't mean I can't believe JE to be the better couple big grin


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i heard something. you guys can make of it what you will. i have no way to confirm it.

"Jack realizes something about himself that stems from what happened in DMC. With the help of Elizabeth and his father, he is able to overcome this struggle. It is at this moment that Elizabeth realizes where her heart truly lies."

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seriously they may be doing a reverse star wars where Hans cant possibly get Leia because of something..or I think that was their original plan laughing out loud

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Originally posted by katelovespirate
i heard something. you guys can make of it what you will. i have no way to confirm it.

"Jack realizes something about himself that stems from what happened in DMC. With the help of Elizabeth and his father, he is able to overcome this struggle. It is at this moment that Elizabeth realizes where her heart truly lies."


thats interesting isnt it Kate..along wth that thing in movie 3 with jack and the pearl

Is this more recent??^^

where did you read that?
but again that could go either way...it may mean that Liz was his lesson never to do that again..

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i didnt read it, someone sent it to me. i have no clue if it is recent or not.

and yes, it could go either way. AHHHHHHH.

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hang on a sec..doesn't teague only come in right at the end or something?

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Its interesting because they say the closure is in DMC..we see liz choose Will. Do the right thing for Will because she loves him..and then she does the right thing for Jack because she is on the verge of loving him. I think Jack needs her and she wants to help him because she does have feelings for him. Will spots this and decideds to go and get Jack for her sake.

Or so it seems lol....but we have to imagine that we dont know anything about AWE

I think we may see a slight repeat of this in AWE..but on a more serious and larger scale...

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This same debate is getting boring lol all I have to say is the waffle won over the fruit cake. Liz prefers to add whip creme on her waffle than fruit cake.

The Fruit cake is the whole feast that couldnt satisfy liz apetite.

That one specific waffle seems to be the only one that can satisfy liz

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POTC Never ended with Will/Liz. Liz had Jack in her mind "...No, he's a pirate"

And Jack singing the song liz taught him. Will/Liz ended up physically but not emtionally together.

The same with DMC. Liz mind was on a certain pirate. While Will was thinking on how he was gonna free hes father.

Dammit let me put this as simple as possible. BILLION MARK!!!!!!!!!

Geesh its that simple


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Chiki. I do think Liz still loves Will a great deal she wont abandon him for Jack. Those two really do need a form of closure. I think she oves him more that Jack when she decideds to chain him up. She knows she has feelings for Jack but she sacrifices them for Will..BUT thats not the end of it.

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Originally posted by LovelyOne
Chiki. I do think Liz still loves Will a great deal she wont abandon him for Jack. Those two really do need a form of closure.

But so does Jack and Elizabeth. They wont leave that open ended I'm sure.


NO I've been trying to say a million times Will/Liz do love eachother but they are not in love.

AWE needs a closure for will/liz. Because that relationship has to go somewhere and by the looks of it its not going to good.

If my last post didnt make sense Im sorry Im just a little groggy.


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Yes She Does Still love him.Know what realy interesting is?The Thing THat When The Trhid Movie Comes out We all gone be suprized at the thing that much stuff that we thought woud be right will be wrong.I hope there will be cool Sword Fights(I love Those)And some cool see fights(Thats Logical that there will be some but i realy want them to be cool)


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movie 3 will heavily be based around Wil/Liz patching things up IMO..but I still dont think thats the end of it..

if you watch the last few scenes of DMC...it explains a lot about what we may see in AWE.they said if there was no sequel DMC would have all th closure needed..they would be happy about it going out like that.


Elizabeth will probably choose Will because she does love him and I would even say she was in love with him.

Chiki we cant really say she's not when we dont know whats gonna happen in AWE..its mere guesswork when we say that..just opinions and such smile

Now she decideds to give up Jack for many reasons but she does choose Will over Jack IMO but whats not so simple is the fact she still very much desires him and she does want him...

but once she has done the thing for Will she realises just how much she cant hack it without Jack being there. She realises she has feelings for him. I wouldnt call it love but there is potential..as terry said she's crying because she's just killed a man who she may well love..and it reveals someting that she cant live with..she's killed a "good man" someone who wants her and cares for her, he needs her and she's killed him and she cant live with the thought of killing a good man because she might just love him she wants him back.

something interesting happens to Jack early in movie 3..VERY interesting that may relate to that ending of DMC where Elizabeth refuses to let that good man stay dead and so by the time movie 2 ends. Elizabeth has made a second choice..she wants Jack. She wants to bring that man back

"Jack realizes something about himself that stems from what happened in DMC. With the help of Elizabeth and his father, he is able to overcome this struggle. It is at this moment that Elizabeth realizes where her heart truly lies."

I find that interesting because Teague doesnt come in until the very end apparently..after Will supposedly stabs the heart

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Oh and I forgot to mention. Will basically sees that Jack is her main priority and he allows her to bring that man back because of that.

(we have to imagine we dont know anything about AWE yet)

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I Agree Lovelyone. It's makes perfect sense!


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they also said the choice wont be Elizabeth's alone when she finds out where her heart truly lies..from the ending of DMC..what i gathered is Will/Liz made a silent choice that she should go and get Jack back and prevent Jack the "good man" from remaining dead and its not just to make herself feel better..she cares for him on a deep level..feelings have developed for him.


Will only decides to do this for her IMO...he wants to save his dad but he spots what Liz is feeling. If we didn't know about what happens in AWE to start with..the audience are left thinking she's accepted her feelings for jack and wants him in her life again, she wants to get the honest man back because she may well love him. And will visibly puts aside his own sense of personal gain and appears to want to help her do what she needs to do.

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yeah it does doesn't it and I really do think she decided to stick with will by chaining jack up BUT she also did it cuz she knew it was something HE needed as well...but Lovely's write it's not the end of it. and about the closure at the end of dead man's chest...depends on when you define to be the "END" of the movie, if the end is when jack is no longer in the scene than yes liz chose to be with will and give jack up for will BUT if you count the time AFTER jack left..liz decides that there might just be something there..and that she needs him so she decides to bring him back and she chooses him and that's that


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Originally posted by LovelyOne
movie 3 will heavily be based around Wil/Liz patching things up IMO..but I still dont think thats the end of it..

if you watch the last few scenes of DMC...it explains a lot about what we may see in AWE.they said if there was no sequel DMC would have all th closure needed..they would be happy about it going out like that.


Elizabeth will probably choose Will because she does love him and I would even say she was in love with him.

Chiki we cant really say she's not when we dont know whats gonna happen in AWE..its mere guesswork when we say that..just opinions and such smile

Now she decideds to give up Jack for many reasons but she does choose Will over Jack IMO but whats not so simple is the fact she still very much desires him and she does want him...

but once she has done the thing for Will she realises just how much she cant hack it without Jack being there. She realises she has feelings for him. I wouldnt call it love but there is potential..as terry said she's crying because she's just killed a man who she may well love..and it reveals someting that she cant live with..she's killed a "good man" someone who wants her and cares for her, he needs her and she's killed him and she cant live with the thought of killing a good man because she might just love him she wants him back.

something interesting happens to Jack early in movie 3..VERY interesting that may relate to that ending of DMC where Elizabeth refuses to let that good man stay dead and so by the time movie 2 ends. Elizabeth has made a second choice..she wants Jack. She wants to bring that man back

"Jack realizes something about himself that stems from what happened in DMC. With the help of Elizabeth and his father, he is able to overcome this struggle. It is at this moment that Elizabeth realizes where her heart truly lies."

I find that interesting because Teague doesnt come in until the very end apparently..after Will supposedly stabs the heart


Well of course Lovely!!! I know its based on our opinions. I cant really read the writers mind or the producer. How dumb do you think I'am lol


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I dot think you are dumb lol

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I would say the closure comes from where we see the characters end it emotionally..physically means nothing..Terry actually says its the emotional place where they end that is the most important thing here..Liz is not with Jack but she's clearly aching to be with him...to save him and not for personal gain..she "may indeed love him" according to Terry.

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