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T&T say its the choices that matter in the movie. I think we may see her make a choice in one way or another when it comes to Jack..or we will see something that suggests she has made that choice. They may use a slightly different way to express it in AWE. they cant make it exactly the same..
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I think I know what Jack may realize about himself..Elizbaeth will realize it too..and if she does indeed love him and care about him...she wont be able to find it in her heart to leave him like that IMO
I cant imagine the audience exactly LOVING her character if she leaves him like that..because its actually her fault it happened.
And its obviously something he cant overcome on his own..he needs to be helped as that thing says...and if this is the moment where she truly realizes where her heart lies..then it means its with Jack.
This sorta happened in DMC at the end in a way..
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Whilst Liz is so concentrated on Will...I think she's missing something rather major when it comes to Jack. It may take her a while to realize..or it may hit her like a TON of bricks. Unless they want her character to be forever known as a heartless ***** I think they will end it J/E
Last edited by LovelyOne on Nov 9th, 2006 at 10:27 PM
Im not sure if shes too concentrated too much on Will because she feels a need to protect him. Since she was the one who rescued him from the boat so I figured ever since shes been keeping an eye out for him. And remember that she took the medallion to protect Will, so nobody will think that he's a pirate.
Im not sure if Liz reasons to be with Will is because that she feels that she owes it to him since Will loves her.
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I mean that kinda...but Chiki I really do think she loves Will and its not only to protect..but it doesnt mean she doesnt have feelings for Jack...she may just be pushing them down whilst Will is around...I dont think she loves Jack yet but She seems to get a huge "dont know what you got till its gone" moment when ever she realizes something major about him...then she seems to show how much she wants him to be back because "she may indeed love him" and she realizes she's killed a good man..."already the world seems a bit less bright" - Gibbs..this whole emphasis on Jack being a good man is very important IMO..people need that man in their world, Elizabeth needs that man in her world.
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and for some reason..now that spoiler on podcast makes about 1 million times more sense because that thing doesnt happen to Will/Liz at all in the story.
This whole thing I'm getting at is very hard to explain but it makes sense in my head lol.
Last edited by LovelyOne on Nov 9th, 2006 at 10:44 PM
Yes of course I do believe she loves him I have said this...again
Elizabeth is a human being. If she stood by him all this time is because she does love him. She wouldnt be too cruel to just let the man all over her just because she feels pitty.
When I said that she stood by him because she thinks that she owes to will, I was talking about the ending in DMC. She made a choice, her choise was to be with Will, but you can read on her that thats not the exact choice that she wants.
Someone said she cried because she killed a human being...well I didnt see her crying when barbossa's crew killed Norington's men. And I didnt seee her crying when the kraken took some of the crew away.
Its just...IMO she made that choice because of shes Will's fiance. And for a woman to leave a "good man" for a pirate probably wouldnt be to good for society to see.
So she thought it was just only a temptation, just kiss him, chain him up, and go back to Will.
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DMC's ending is very significant to the end of AWE IMO..its gonna pretty much be based around the same emotions coming from Elizabeth
She's not crying there because she killed a man..she's crying because she's killed Jack. Chiki I agree with you she's not only showing guilt for killing a man..right here she's showing us just how loyal her heart to Jack really is IMO and this is the last thing we get from her in the movie..meaning this is where she emotionaly ended in DMC..they said if they wanted to end the story here they would be comfortable with it because ithe closure is there already...IMO in AWE its going to be the same..but probably right at the very end.
Last edited by LovelyOne on Nov 9th, 2006 at 10:58 PM
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I honestly don't think all the emotions Liz showed towards Jack before and as she chained him up are important at all. Whats important is what we see afterward with her character.
this whole thing what Terry said on wordplay about Liz crying because she's killed someone that she may indeed love and it reveals a part of herself she cant live with..IMO this is NOT a part of her that is like a pirate and leaving people to die..its part of her that leaves people she might LOVE to die she cant live with herself if she does that.
This may be echoed later on with her and Jack.
because something happens to Jack in AWE because of what she did to him on th pearl and she may realize it rather late in AWE because she is so concentrated on Will.
Last edited by LovelyOne on Nov 9th, 2006 at 11:10 PM
I dont have exact prrof myself, but I know its not really a Liz/Will ending. Jacks sturggle was to accept that he wants elilzabeth. I think his father and Elizabeth will help him overcome his feelings. Then she probably plans to go with Will....but theres something missing in there.
Its very incomplete: Helps Jack, then runs with Will. I think there are some things missing in here.
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no IMO..he realises something about himself and so does Elizabeth and teague...
I'm wondering if one of the main reasons Jack hates his honest self is because of his father and something teague did to him in the past, something that hurt him..It happens again with Elizabeth and that may be the "last straw"...
Will Lizzie and Teague reconcile with him? Save him?
It amazes me that Jack tries to seperate himself from his emotions so much..even before he met Elizabeth..
does his cold hearted behaviour in the draft script remind you of a certain someone??
Will the audience WANT Jack to become like this? and stay like this?
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Nov 9th, 2006 09:18 PM
It may take her a while to realize..or it may hit her like a TON of bricks. Unless they want her character to be forever known as a heartless ***** I think they will end it J/E
I have said this...again 
