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When did thanos gain the power to swap planets around with pure TK? When has thanos ever been shown being able to manipulate reality, or age someone to dust. Has thanos ever raised someone from the dead or had control over actual souls? Has thanos killed yet one sky father? I think he's quite a bit above thanos.


And you think wrong.

He's approximately Thanos level.


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Nope. Never happened. The only universe he absorbed was the Anti Matter Universe. He destroyed the rest of the universe's by releasing anti matter into them. And he did it with tech, so if he's multiversal, then so is Reed Richards.


AM is as multiversal as you can get. But I get where your coming from. It is much easier to try and discredit the being so that DS doesn't look so good, so that your earlier point stands. It is a valid tactic. one that is used many times on here when trying to demean the less popular characters. Show me Thanos hurting anyone of "universal" lvl.

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AM is as multiversal as you can get. But I get where your coming from. It is much easier to try and discredit the being so that DS doesn't look so good, so that your earlier point stands. It is a valid tactic. one that is used many times on here when trying to demean the less popular characters. Show me Thanos hurting anyone of "universal" lvl.


DS = Superman lv


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When did thanos gain the power to swap planets around with pure TK? When has thanos ever been shown being able to manipulate reality, or age someone to dust. Has thanos ever raised someone from the dead or had control over actual souls? Has thanos killed yet one sky father? I think he's quite a bit above thanos.
And yet Superman kicks his arse....


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AM is as multiversal as you can get. But I get where your coming from. It is much easier to try and discredit the being so that DS doesn't look so good, so that your earlier point stands. It is a valid tactic. one that is used many times on here when trying to demean the less popular characters. Show me Thanos hurting anyone of "universal" lvl.

Prove that AM was multiversal. You can't can you? That's why you haven't actually addressed any of the points that I've made. And what you mean is "Weak" universal level.


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And yet Superman kicks his arse....


And WW


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And yet Superman kicks his arse....


Superman has never kicked DS ass without some outside midigating factors. Put one panel up of Superman getting a descisive victory with no outside help and I'll concede. Hell Superman's biggest victory actually goes to the Source protecting him, and the source wall holding DS.

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And WW


In rock of ages, DS killed WW with one back hand.

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Superman has never kicked DS ass without some outside midigating factors. Put one panel up of Superman getting a descisive victory with no outside help and I'll concede. Hell Superman's biggest victory actually goes to the Source protecting him, and the source wall holding DS.


WW defeated DS...


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In regards to Anti-Moniter, it was said that with every matter universe that he destroyed, he was becoming more and more powerful (with the Moniter becoming weaker and weaker).

This would imply that he was drawing power from the nature of the universes themselves, not that he was at some static power level.

Which would essentially imply that he was a multiversal anti-matter abstract, I would think.

I think part of the problem we are having is that its hard to guage what "multiversal" is, or at least what our individual definitions of the term are.

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Prove that AM was multiversal. You can't can you? That's why you haven't actually addressed any of the points that I've made. And what you mean is "Weak" universal level.


The Am powered himself up with the universese he destroyed and absorbed. He was multiversal. Period. The only time we see him with only a universes power was when he was drained and had to absorb the power of universe to power back up. He was Multiversal. His battles with the heroes, DS's attack, and the spectre had worn him out. Nice try tho. I know that story. It was great. called Crisis.

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In rock of ages, DS killed WW with one back hand.


After the Our Worlds at War storyline WW deflected the OE, and beat his ass...


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After the Our Worlds at War storyline WW deflected the OE, and beat his ass...


Now I know you dont' read DC. That was the final clinch right there. Darkseid doesn't use the OE on superman first of all. It doesn't work. He may have been using the Omega beams. The OE doesn't hit any target but the one that it wants to. The Omega beams are terribly powerful, but they are not the OE. DS already knows the OE doesn't work on Superman so he wont' use it. He'll use his Omega beams to hurt Superman as the OE is useless. Thanks.

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The Am powered himself up with the universese he destroyed and absorbed. He was multiversal. Period. The only time we see him with only a universes power was when he was drained and had to absorb the power of universe to power back up. He was Multiversal. His battles with the heroes, DS's attack, and the spectre had worn him out. Nice try tho. I know that story. It was great. called Crisis.

I know what it's called, I have the entire series and every crossover. Yes his power increased with the destruction of those universe's, but it obviously wasn't directly proportionate to the power contained within those universe's, because he was damn near killed by Supergirl. He has ALMOST as much power as a single "Standard" Universe. That means that Eternity could take him.

And I don't know why you insist on LYING and continue saying that he absorbed the power from the other universe's because it's completely untrue. He destroyed them WITH TECH, he didn't absorb them.


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Now I know you dont' read DC. That was the final clinch right there. Darkseid doesn't use the OE on superman first of all. It doesn't work. He may have been using the Omega beams. The OE doesn't hit any target but the one that it wants to. The Omega beams are terribly powerful, but they are not the OE. DS already knows the OE doesn't work on Superman so he wont' use it. He'll use his Omega beams to hurt Superman as the OE is useless. Thanks.
He sourced WW, NOT SUPERMAN...


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Now I know you dont' read DC. That was the final clinch right there. Darkseid doesn't use the OE on superman first of all. It doesn't work. He may have been using the Omega beams. The OE doesn't hit any target but the one that it wants to. The Omega beams are terribly powerful, but they are not the OE. DS already knows the OE doesn't work on Superman so he wont' use it. He'll use his Omega beams to hurt Superman as the OE is useless. Thanks.


What does that have to do with Wonder Woman deflecting the OE with her bracelets?


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I know what it's called, I have the entire series and every crossover. Yes his power increased with the destruction of those universe's, but it obviously wasn't directly proportionate to the power contained within those universe's, because he was damn near killed by Supergirl. He has ALMOST as much power as a single "Standard" Universe. That means that Eternity could take him.

And I don't know why you insist on LYING and continue saying that he absorbed the power from the other universe's because it's completely untrue. He destroyed them WITH TECH, he didn't absorb them.



Your saying i'm lying but you have no proof at all to support your theory that he didn't gain the power of each universe he destroyed. NO proof at all. to the contrary, his further powering up after each universe dies lends credence to my statement that he got the power of each universe. Supergirl hurt his containment suit and had to have a good showing. She was going to die. Similiar to konner being able to fight SBP for a little while. have to have a good shwoing when your about to die. Calling me a lyer wont' make what your saying the truth. becuz it's not.

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He sourced WW, NOT SUPERMAN...


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What does that have to do with Wonder Woman deflecting the OE with her bracelets?



It wasn't the OE. It was the Omega Beams. They are diffent. Check up on it. Get to know the character.

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