Refer to my post above ''beat your women'', ''testemony of one man equals two women'', ''women are efficient in intelligence'' ''kill disbelievers wherever you find them'', ''disbelievers are dirty'' ''kill pagans'', ''fight until there is no religion other than Islam'' is not a snippet, its a verse of allah's hate towards women and anyone who is not a believer.
Second, Qur'an is grossly contradictory. Not only contradictory but extremely inaccurate in any historical fact mentioned.
Verses I posted still stand. About killing unbelievers, and about hell fire which awaits them. Furthermore, it is not a single verse - these verses are repeted over and over and over again throughout the Qur'an with no chronology.
The verses of violence, intolerance and hate above STILL STAND in the Qur'an. Every word of it.
And you can shit your pants being angry, and they'll still be in the qur'an.
And not just groups but very high clerics around the world.
None of them has refuted any violent passage in the Qur'an.
The people who DO refute are apologetics who more often than not are not even Muslims.
To question the of Muhammad is to question Allah. Which is a gravest of the sins.
The only people who reject the violence (either by ignoring, not knowing or by completely discarding it as invalid and un-Islamic) are initially ordinary people (Muslims).
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Last edited by lil bitchiness on Apr 29th, 2007 at 12:28 PM
lil b you are such a devil i am saing this because you are brainwashing everyone why dont you tell them what the verces actually mean and post the whole verse rather then a few words why?
why dont you? why is it because you know you are chatting shit?
lil b i wana debate you becuase you are always chatting shit about islam i am getting quiet fed up i asked kali to debate me and he diden't even answer
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Newsflash, there's such a thing called "edit". Anyway debating specific verses of the Quran, however entertaining it may be, is quite pointless because too many important teachings of Islam are quite rotten. Regardless of how many hours we argue we are still going to believe women should not be beaten (No, not even with a bloody toothstick) gays and adulterers should not be stoned, beaten up, exiled, flogged, etc. church and state should be separate, and the list goes on.
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however, the do get to dictate what their local brand of Islam is, which then becomes the religion of the people.
I don't see a lot of disagreement between what we are saying if you are talking about Muslims in the first world, but to imply that these groups are not influenced by their religion is almost like saying what people believe can have no affect on their behaviour. Mind, the first world Muslims did hold world wide anti-free speech rallies.
One of us is brainwashed, but I somehow doubt its me.
I posted verses of Qur'an. The actual verses of the Qur'an.
What exactly do you want to debate?
No matter what you say about Qur'an, it clearly state what is to be done with women and what is to be done with disbelievers - which im sad to say, is all of us.
I am listening.
Islam is a religion of peace - and will kill you to prove it.
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في هذا العالم ثلاثة أشخاص أفسدوا البشرية : راعي غنم , طبيب و راكب الجمال , و راكب الجمال هو أسوأ نشال و أسوأ مشعوذ بين الثلاثة
dude u live in an ignorant world. today my mother, forcing me to say outloud what my true beliefs were told me that she was ASHAMED of having had me as a child, that shed take it back infront of allah if she cud go back in time. she told me that there was no place in here heart, her house, or her contry{pakistan} for heathens such as me and i shud leave as soon as possible. furthermore she added quite amusingly and sadistically that people here would bash my head in rightfully if they knew i was anti islamic and that there was no connection between us blood or otherwise aslong as i didnt have the most fundamental belief in islam and god. and guess what she told me that she was actually rather happy with the two bunch of gangster's that beat me up pretty badly a while ago saying, they might not have good wordly actions but atleast allah is close to their hearts{and the reason the beat me and gave me pretty bad concussions and wounds was only cause i was a KAFIR} . u dont accept the practical HUMAN side of islam or if it is explained by kali or more importantly lil, bitchness. take it form people that go trough it. ur the one whose mistaken pal!!!!!!!!!!!!!! muslims are for the most part right now, one of the stupidest and most idiotic nations on earth.{REGUARDLESS of islam being the cause or facilitater/encourager/allower} and islam has a lot to do with it.