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You know every sociology book will say something different about racism and homophobia....right ? erm

I don't care. I'm a structural functionalist.


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I assume because it incredibly insulting . . .


thats what i thought, but then i thought harder. how is it insulting?


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thats what i thought, but then i thought harder. how is it insulting?


Its insulting because people are avoiding you for no good reason.

If people fled from you wouldn't you be insulted?


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I don't care. I'm a structural functionalist.


So you think these institutions are there only becuase society discusses them?


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So you think these institutions are there only becuase society discusses them?

No, I think they have a purpose and contribute to the overall stability of society.


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You think racism and homophobia contribute to the stability of society?


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i have a question for gay people. why do gay people care that some straight people dont like being around them? I'm not talking about straight people who verbally abuse gay people, just people who rather not be around them?


Because while they're being all politically correct in our presence, they're walking in to voting booths and casting a ballot for ignorance, misinterpretation, bigotry and inequity.

I couldn't give a rat's ass about how a bigot feels about me, in person or on the inside. But his vote counts. And even more importantly, his ability to exist in the same world as I do means a lot.

However, you'll find that most straight people with the real issues with gay people are less than willing to display them in public. They're scared to do so. I've been called a f@g from the back seat of a moving vehicle, but no one has had the balls to say it to my face. Except the homeless.


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i have a question for gay people. why do gay people care that some straight people dont like being around them? I'm not talking about straight people who verbally abuse gay people, just people who rather not be around them?


Becuase people are not allowed to socialy engineer elements out of society.

People said the same things about blacks in the 50's and 60's (and prior)

They care becuase its wrong. Its called denial.


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thats a thick ass stormtrooper.


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thats a thick ass stormtrooper.



Thick.....


ASS....


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They care becuase its wrong.


No, they care for the wrong reasons.


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jango needs to lay off the roids.


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jango needs to lay off the roids.


Were either of my posts followed up with a droolio smilie?




I thought not.


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and what has that got to do with jango fett abusing steroids?


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thats a thick ass stormtrooper.


laughing out loud Yes
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No, they care for the wrong reasons.


My statement was incoherent. I don't really know what I meant by it.
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jango needs to lay off the roids.


Well, I guess you wouldn't need roids if you're a genetically engineered supersoldier.


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Well...I think people who dont like gay people fear them because....they dotn want to be touched!


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I don't want to be touched by a seventy-year-old chick, but I have nothing against old women and don't mind spending time with them on occasion.


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Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Because while they're being all politically correct in our presence, they're walking in to voting booths and casting a ballot for ignorance, misinterpretation, bigotry and inequity.

I couldn't give a rat's ass about how a bigot feels about me, in person or on the inside. But his vote counts. And even more importantly, his ability to exist in the same world as I do means a lot.

However, you'll find that most straight people with the real issues with gay people are less than willing to display them in public. They're scared to do so. I've been called a f@g from the back seat of a moving vehicle, but no one has had the balls to say it to my face. Except the homeless.


I'm curious on what votes you are talking about. Votes that decide on what polaticians get into office, politicians that may help sway gay rights?

i only ask because i have been pondering these social relevances for some time now. For the longest time i found myself as a staight person caught in the middle of a dog fight between conservative poloticans and people seeking a nation wide integration of polictial correctness, which includes the "gay movements". Personally i am completely against political correctness. I feel it invites socialism into America, but could care less about legalized gay marriage. As far as gay people and their rights, i could care less. I am not effected by gay people one way or the other, i feel it is nothing more than a lifestyle. As a lifestyle that doesnt interfere with the well being of others, i feel it should be accepted in America, or atleast be left up to the states to decide whether or not gay marriage is legalized.
however, If a peaceful straight citizen of America is against Gay marriage and is given the opportunity to vote for a certain right that effects a gay persons right. Is it not the straight persons right to decide what there vote is? If so, how is that ignorance? You may say, how does a gay persons right to be married effect them? To me it doesnt, but i can understand how this may effect that persons life. Example. If i dissagree with your lifestyle as a gay person, but do nothing to instigate a troubling situation, and infact co-exist with everyone peacfully. Why would you in return care so much and despise me? You have your beliefs and i have mine. I had a friend who lost his job because a gay person over heard a conversation he was having with another employer about gay rights. the gay person reported him for slander. When he wasnt even talking about this person, only about hypothetical issues. Why should straight people suffer from political correctness when they are making their views known peacfully, and gay people who are self righteous make their beliefs known in a blatant display of force that sometimes greatly offends people?


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You think racism and homophobia contribute to the stability of society?

I do.
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No, they care for the wrong reasons.

f@g


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Originally posted by G U I T A R
Well...I think people who dont like gay people fear them because....they dotn want to be touched!

i like to be touched... embarrasment


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