I'm glad to hear that RJ, but the recruiter would turn you away on account of being deemed a codger.
You're aware that during a draft the US govt. doesn't want some guy in his late thirties who's married with an established career, right? They want 18 or 19-year-olds who are fresh out of high school, who dont know shit about the real world, and full of testerone and itching to send the enemy back to his maker, and don't have the emotional baggage of a wife at home who might cheat on them/they might never return to.
I'm fairly certain they wouldn't take RJ very eagerly, if at all, so I dont see why you keep pointing out to him that he's not in Iraq right now.
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No, I know that, and I am fine with that. What I don't like is that people sign up to fight a war that should not be fought. Nothing respectable about being aggressors in a war, aiding the bad guys.
Nothing respectable about being aggressors in a war that is more akin to a massacre.
Precisely. They primarily want someone who doesn't give a shit and wants to kill the enemy. RJ is a man in his late 30s with all the mentality of an 18 year old. Manly? Going to war is a real man's job? If he told them that, you'd think they'd turn him away? He's not too old, not according to all the sites I researched.
RJ isn't married either, for the record.
What you said is right, they want stupid people who don't know better. These are the people we're supposed to respect.
Because according to his condition (According to him.) and judging by the military age limit and physical regulations, he'd be accepted. Add to that his attitude and you've got another soldier.
The reason for raising the accepted age was because there were older men with younger mentalities of wanting to "defend the country". RJ can talk it, he'd never walk it unless he was forced.
If they send them now when there isn't a draft of course they'd send them if there was one. Britain are sending people from the territorial army, which shows how desperate they are for soldiers of any kind and any age range.
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Not according to someone I speak to often, he's not.
Either way, I was discussing RJ being an armchair coward and trying to cover it up. You're now discussing general soldiers. Different matter.
That's called bias. No disrespect to your son's personality, I don't know him. He could be a great guy, the ex-marine I know is a great person, but I just think he made a stupid decision. Same applies to anyone who joins the military. It's not some all encompassing remark regarding their character, just that decision. Though it USUALLY says a lot about the character.
It's also to boost numbers in the event that front-line and combat patrollers are needed.
Prefer? Maybe not, but they would, as Chill said.
Either way, that's more general than I was discussing. My point was case specific to RJ.
It doesn't matter. When you sign up you sign up to fight for whatever reason the President decides is worthy.
That is stupid, because there are people out in Iraq complaining that it isn't what they wanted. They have themselves to blame and aren't to be pitied.
So that runs back into: Soldiers are necessary, but 'you're' stupid if you join [regardless of when you join]. I don't agree and I think it's a foolish assessment.
I agree and I have addresses that, there are whiners in every group, those are the minority though, so let them whine and complain and they're foolish for doing so.
Do you think it's any better that there are people willing to go and fight for Bush's cause, believing it's the right thing to do? The one's who aren't moaning, and are ok with it, I mean.
The Unites States draft targets unmarried men between the ages of 18 and 25 (college guys and high school seniors soon to graduate), that doesnt mean they won't take a guy who's thirty.
Trust me, the line at the recruiting office would be made up of way more 18, 19, and twenty somethings, then thrity somethings.
Just because YOU believe it isn't the right thing to do doesn't automatically make it so and that's an entirely different debate/subject than soldiers being "stupid" because they enlist in a necessary job.
But if it makes you feel better, Bush is out relatively soon and whomever gets elected; be it Rep or Dem will pull out of Iraq. Then most likely they'll be a huge civil war where one side will commit genocide on the other, Iran will probably gain a strong foothold in Iraq and people will then be crying foul because America pulled out and let it happen. I'm sure this will be a debate topic in the near future.
I asked you a question, Rob. An answer would have sufficed.
Me and him were discussing his views after I exposed his bs. You are the one who came in, replied to me, and tried taking the debate to a different place. I wasn't discussing potential soldiers, neither was RJ. WE were discussing HIS choices. Don't come in, try to get me to discuss something I wasn't talking about, then suggest I'm obsessed for remaining on topic.
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