Without believing in God, this person is only doing these things to be seen by men and to be an ego-maniac. His deeds are worthless spiritually.
In the bible, no one warns of the fire of hell more often than Jesus himself. Even the Christian has to walk the talk in order to win heaven. Only babies and small children get a 'free pass" to heaven when they die without having to work for it.
Since God is the one who is omniscient, why wouldn't the believer give Him the benefit of the doubt that He knows what He's doing? What would be the point of arguing with Him just because you can't see the big picture?
When children and willful teens argue with adults over matters that they won't understand fully until they gain the experience, they would be better off simply doing what they are told. They are inequipped to understand. This concept is even more apt in this case.
1. Nope. That might be your how YOU would deal with it without your book..others are normal and call it genetics, call it upbringing, but the need to good is present in freethinkers.
It feels good to the good, to be good...
Its the cats that need a book to tell them not to rape and steal/kill that the world should worry about... The concept is grossly insulting to the good of mankind.
2. Now that Limbo is not decided to exist anymore, right?
God is both omniscient as well as our Creator. Why wouldn't He know about us?
God is not a "he." God is ONE and is above the concept of the duality... male/female... which He created for us. I use "he" only because of the limitation of the language. "It" would be disrespectful.
God is the Most Just of all those who practice justice. We have to know what the rules of the Game are in order to choose between right and wrong and make it fair.
Belief/Faith in the unseen... God, the afterlife, the angels, spirit, etc., is part of the rules of the Game. The insistence on earthly, materialistic proof is an attempt to play the rules of some other game and is inappropriate. Believe or Disbelieve is how you play. And insistence on physical proof for God and the things of the spirit is an expression of Disbelief and is how you lose.
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God made the being who would later become known as "the devil," a transformation 100% dependent on what this being himself chose for his existence. He transformed himself into "the devil" because of what he chose to do. God did not "make the devil" in the sense of what you are implying.
When God first made him, the creature was not dedicated to evil.
The Word of God is referred to as 'The Good News' when it reaches people who naturally, or through parental instruction, love doing good for their fellow men AND have a belief in God. For all those who do not believe the Book is not a good news, but a warning.
It is a great insult to mankind for him to deny his Creator.
The concept of 'limbo' is not within my system of beliefs.
So I assume you have some uncanny ability to see into the hearts, minds and souls of people? Otherwise your claim is completely baseless, sure someone could donate one of their kidneys for "ego-manic" purposes, but it doesn't have to be so.
Yet according to Christian script, even the worst of sinners can get into heaven be simply accepting Jesus as 'the one and only savior'.
Existence without God is worthless. Just as worthless as egomania. lol
So you are admitting that even within christianity the sinner will not get into heaven until he lives his life like one who accepts belief in God with all that that implies?
Proof? Proof that is carriers to all people? (the existance being worthless part)
When did I deny that this concept wasn't religious dogma? I didn't. I questioned the sanity and logic behind believing such. "Good" atheist goes to hell. Anal-rapist finds God; goes to heaven.
Back to my 'head in the sand and ass in the air' statement. Which is fine, you have faith, kudos.
I'm always awed at how the more religious a person is, the less likely they're willing to question the tenets of their chosen religion. Not necessarily pointing this at you, just in the general sense from my experiences.
It's a matter of faith. You want to use modern, materialistic scientific methods to prove a concept that is not related to the material? Is that logical?
It seems like you are questioning a concept you didn't have a good grasp on to begn with. If you sin, God gives you a way to cleanse yourself and get in His good graces. What's so hard to understand about that?
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