not sure sure about shang hi he was able to hang in there with thing and break down steel downs, and lets not forget his chi attack. not so sure he's in uber tier then again he's above the rest in the catagorty that his in in.
Karnak (with his abilities he should be in Top tier, but he seems more second tier)
Red skrull (same class as Captain America)
Champion of the Universe (cosmic tier)
Tasksmaster, where would he be? hes copied so many abilities and knows most of thier moves so.
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Cosmic tier: (Can damage class100s with no problem)
Mantis, Gamora, Midnight Sun, Karate Kid
Uber tier: (Better than the greatest martial artists)
Stick, Gorgon, Midnighter, Deathstroke (maybe, not sure).
Top tier: (Are usually given the title "is one of the greatest martial artists in the world.")
Cap, DD, Wolverine, Shang Chi, Black Panther, Batman, Deadpool, Nightwing, Red Hood, Robin, Green Arrow, Taskmaster, Elecktra (not sure about this one), Kingpin, Shin Kuei, Iron Fist, Lady Shiva, Batgirl, Conner Hawke
Second tier: (Close behind the best)
Punisher, Black Widow, USA Agent, Nick Fury, Azarel (mainly brute strength rather than skill), Bullseye, Moon Knight, Sabretooth, Night Thrasher (is very good but he does use a hyrdraulic suit...so thats cheating a bit)
Third tier: (Has MA training and experience, but not particularly good.....meh!)
Agents of Shield
Accomplished fighter: (May have alot of experience but very little formal training.
Spiderman, Luke Cage, Beast
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Last edited by Deadline on Apr 6th, 2007 at 04:49 PM
Taskmaster seems to be the Apocalypse of the street levelers ie jobs
Well somebody gave me a link for US agent so I put him in second tier. Yeah that would be a good idea especilaly for some of the DC MAs, but I wont be posting anyting im going now and probably wont be back till Monday.
Bullseye has be beaten by Punisher pretty badly but then again Bullseye has beaten Elecktra on a regular basis. I was thinking of making Punisher top tier.
Oh yeah I added Night Thrasher to the list above.
Are you kidding Red Hood beats up Nightwing on a regular basis.
Actually I was going to be GA on the bottom he seems to be a brawler but people on this forum say there are different verion,s and one was very skill anyway im a bit confused now. Im pretty sure Red Hood is not less skilled. Red Hood owned Nightwing as Robin.
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Last edited by Deadline on Apr 6th, 2007 at 04:55 PM
Deathstroke is definitely second tier. He beats the shit out of people because he's enhanced like crazy, but his actual SKILL is a notch below the likes of Batman and Captain America.
Black Panther, Deadpool, and Deathstroke, should all be second tier. There is NO WAY the Punisher should be top tier.
Deadpool is definitely a top tier, just because he abuses his healing power doesn't mean he isn't a very skilled martial artist. He went toe to toe with Killmonger, who beat T'challa, without relying on his healing factor.
Green Arrow shouldn't be moved, since 'One year later' he's become a beast. He's just as well trained as Deathstroke now, if not better. He's mastered the 'good' and the 'bad' techniques.
Azrael is a very skilled fighter, and he doesn't rely only on his brute strength, his strength wasn't even that amazing until the last 20 issues or so of his series (Out of 100) Keep him where he is but remove the disclaimer.
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