Very true that over use of anything including food could be damaging to ones own body. Yet very holy men had used plants to connect closely with their god. There were others that used it for medicinal purposes. Yet it seems that god is alright with the usage.
BTW, I am not saying that drug use is great or bad...just stating the facts...
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i have smoked 2 cigars 13 cigerrettes and 3 sheeshas {none of them containing anything more than tobacco} in my entire life and dont plan to do it again, heck i dont even drink. does that answer your question?
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What makes the drug illegal? It is not the drug because doctors prescribe "illegal" drugs all the time but how you use it that makes it "illegal". I could go to another country and a drug that is there is legal and here it is not, would that mean that I broke the law?
The reason that I asked if you used illegal drugs was because many times the things that you right sometimes comes across somewhat incoherent. I don't mean to offend you but that is the impression that I get many times when I read your posts.
Now, I cannot answer your question because I am not sure I understand it.
Yeah but I mean in a biblical context. Is using illegal drugs sinful and legal ones not? Cuz he could've easily been using salvia. I just don't see why you singled out illegal drugs.
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You ask that question like he's not going to short circuit over the character-shattering image he's pushing. Give him a break; he's just a simple sock. You can't expect him to participate outside his limits. He'll either ignore you or give you some Golden Corral paper-place mat answer.
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so, pot=sinful but some new and legal designer drug=not sinful
and the mediating factor is that pot is illegal?
would legal marijuana then not be sinful? If I were to be prescribed medicinal marijuana, is it still sinful? Is it retroactive, like, if I'm prescribed medicinal marijuana are all the previous times, which may have been self-medication, still sinful? What if I go to Amsterdam, is it like a geographical location where the sin is gone because it is not enforced? Or does the fact that there are still laws on the book, even though they are not followed, make it still sinful?
How are drug laws harmonious with the bible? I know the bible is full of hypocrisies, but there is no way it even approaches the nonsense of drug law. Its actually really insulting to the bible to associate the two, as there are some good messages from bible stories.
And if it sinful to not follow the law, what if the law forbids Christian practice? Wasn't the church established by people who found problems with man's laws?
I think he's saying that as long as the law tells you to do what the Bible tells you to do you should obey the law. Which is really very just roundabout way of saying that people should obey their personal beliefs instead of the law (which people often do anyway).
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no, totally, I'm more interested in the rationale behind drug laws being congruent with scripture, as I don't honestly believe the Bible is that poorly written.
I'm more pointing out that, at least as I understand it, it seems a bit silly to think that the drug policy of any nation is according to God's plan or establishes what is sin. I've had people try before, but I don't think anyone has really convinced me that the bible is even against intoxicants...
The Bible is a book of it's time. Wine was very popular and there was no reason then to restrict its use (perhaps there is today but not because of moral considerations).
Jesus' first miracles was to provide wine for a wedding, he then went on to be a big hero or something. In Genesis 9:20 - 21 Noah's immediate response to the flood ending was to plant a vineyard and get completely smashed (seriously, I ), he lived to the age of 350. Wine is used a blessing some 30 times in the text and warned against about as many times.
The policy that win is sinful is probably a result of later sentiment against the Romans or simply because it causes loss of inhibition and can be related to various sorts of problems.
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actually (and I'm no expert, so I'm parroting a Muslim friend of mine) from what I know, the Qur'an prohibits alcohol but promotes pot by name (which is culturally very understandable, hashish and cannibis have had thousands of years of integration into central asian and east asian cultures, though not for its intoxicating qualities specifically).
I really don't think Jesus' cared much for what was popular at the time.
As Augustine said, "What is wrong is wrong, even if everybody is doing it. What is right is right, even if nobody is doing it."
Ofcourse, it our days of moral relativism we tend to reject moral absolutes by clinging to the extremes of arguments to justify the commonplace realities.
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