Nuclear Winter, I noticed that you speak about New World Order..... Do you even know that they are part of the Technocratic Union? But don`t worry, all those conspiracies are there to protect you from demons and monsters, you know....
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Please post multiple sources that prove this as fact. Conspiracey oriented websites will not count as they not only have thier own agenda, but seriously pervert and distort facts to try and prove their theories.
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If the ideas presented in this thread weren't so utterly stupid and ridiculous it would be offensive.
As it is, it's just pathetically funny.
Especially when the main "evidence" for the conspiracy was almost immediately proven wrong by the thread starters apparent misunderstanding of simple subtraction. Clearly someone who doesn't know how to subtract properly has all things in this world figured out. Can't blame him, he's clearly so busy finding out "the truth" on some random asshates website that he can't find the time to be educated in simple math.
I guess the lizards must have gotten to lord xyz and made him make you look like a fool, NW. Not that you needed any help there.
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Last edited by BackFire on Apr 19th, 2007 at 08:05 PM
And all I had to do was read his post. I expected atleast one source of information, yet all the evidence I saw was a bad calculation that I, a 15 year old Yorkshiremen, knew was wrong! Really comical isn't it?
All you have on your side of the arguement is that I messed up on my math in the beginning. lol. That's all you have!
It's a joke. If you have nothing to counter any of the claims I am making, than just say so. Because thats what I find "pathetic".
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I've already proven the correlation of the numbers 13 and 33. This is important.
I have also already proven that they are Illuminati Signature numbers. This is important.
I have also proven that it can't be coincidence that the two most famous massacres in our country contain the numbers 13 and 33. This is important.
What have you skeptics proven?
"Ha ha, Nuclear Winter messed up on a math problem in the beginning of this thread."
Thats what you have proven. How does it refute any of the claims I made in this thread? It doesn't.
PS - I'm not perfect. I do make mistakes.
Hey Kharma and all you others, "He who is without Sin cast the first stone."
He who has never made a mistake in their life, cast the first stone.
And don't give me that BS about never messing up on a math problem, because any mistake is as good as any other.
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Last edited by NuclearWinter on Apr 19th, 2007 at 08:29 PM
You have a gross misunderstanding of the laws of logic and argumentation, friend.
You've failed to prove your side, giving some lazy number coincidence (that's all it is, mind you, until you can prove beyond all doubt that it is more than a coincidence, you saying "there is no such thing as coincidence is meaningless, like me saying there's no such thing as a conspiracy) is proof of nothing, it's a desperate and lazy attempt at making a correlation where there is no correlation. Until you do that, we don't NEED to counter anything because you have not established a valid argument.
Everything that happens can be tied to a reason for it happening. Every event that occurs is because of something else.
Try and refute that...I'm challenging you directly.
You want to make fun of me for making a mistake. Let's see how smart you really are then. Refute what I just said.
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Somethings just happen, there isn't some grater reason for every single thing that happens.
See, what you're doing here, again, is making a claim, and then thinking that by simply making a claim, you've made a valid argument and that it's now up to us to disprove it, where as in reality, according to the most basic rules of logic, it's up to YOU to prove it.
Until you prove it, or until you at least defend your argument and make it more than just a hollow claim, I don't have to do shit, because you don't have an argument.
In other words, you simply saying "Coincidence doesn't exist" doesn't make it so.
Now I would like you to state something in this Universe, anything at all, that doesn't have a reason for it's existence. And that can't be tied to a reason for it "happening" or being here.
Cause and effect my friend. There's no way of getting around it. You can't beat this Universal Law. You are a part of it.
Again I say, there is no such thing as coincidence. Where something "happens for no reason". As you said.
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It's impossible to prove the Illuminati even exists! So show us this 'proof'.
Wow, talk about dumb. How about "NuclearWinter is trying to prove a conspiracy by coincidences and a subtraction which he did wrong, and later sees it as nothing, yet, it was his primary 'proof' of a conspiracy.
We don't need you to tell us that.
Your maths problem is your evidence that 33 is significant. Then it turns out your problem was wrong, thus debunking 33's significance, thus debunking the rest of the thread. Do you not see this?
Now tell me how that one math problem in the beginning refutes the rest of the claims in this thread? Please...by all means..explain in great detail. I'm interested to watch yourself trip over your own arguement.
Tell me how the math problem I messed up on in the beginning effects the claims I made about the number 13 and 33 being involved in the Columbine Massacre and the Virginia Tech Massacre.
Then tell me how the math problem I messed up on in the beginning refutes all the claims I made about the government trying to spin the school shootings in order to take away our guns.
Then try and explain how the numbers 13 and 33 aren't connected to the Illuminati and aren't involved in any of the symbolism of our government.
Go ahead. I'd like to see you try.
Last edited by NuclearWinter on Apr 19th, 2007 at 08:46 PM
Just found this picture on Infowars.com . It seem's Cho did have a friend and why are they both in military garb and wearing ski-mask's in a military style tent?