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Starhawk, there isn't much to add. Everyone else has dealt with you.


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You'd have more credibility if you explained why he's wrong.

Anyone can just call people stupid. That's how children argue.


Saying "democrats are scared of republicans" is stupid as hell. On what basis? "Scared of" and showing how is another thing.

That's like saying America didn't go into WWII at the beginning because they were scared. Again, on what basis?


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Come on now, at least admit that I covered your crucial "points"...


"Blah blah blah" covers nothing, and is below my interest really. I'm looking for intellectual debate.


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Saying "democrats are scared of republicans" is stupid as hell. On what basis? "Scared of" and showing how is another thing.

That's like saying America didn't go into WWII at the beginning because they were scared. Again, on what basis?


The fact that they won't call the republicans on their failures or stand up to them politically.


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Yes, I've seen the democrats puff up their chest to look tough, the republicans standing up and the democrats running away scared saying "Please don't hurt me."


This is false. Are you looking at Fox News or something?


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"Blah blah blah" covers nothing, and is below my interest really. I'm looking for intellectual debate.


Then post something besides:
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pointless rhetoric devoid of any practicality FTW

and you'll receive what you seek.


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I was watching CNN today and there was Nancy Pelosi talking about how the house needs to work WITH the white house. What is wrong with her? What they need to do is cut all funding and bring the troops home. Also she talked about instead of cutting the funding, just managing it more and instead of pulling out the troops she wants to change the nature of their mission to other areas.

This is what is wrong with the Democrats and I am a left wing person myself in ideology. But do they not realize that cutting the funding for the war is a win/win for them? Not only would they look strong by over-ruling the republicans. But also most of America wants the war over and this is what they were voted in to do.

All I can say is this is just another big let down from the spineless Democrats. And this makes me very upset because I would like nothing better then to see the republicans out of power.


Nothing is wrong with the democrats. Whats wrong with you?

I don't consider people with concerns for others to be "spineless" I consider ideologues who cant objectively look at a situation and work out a rational solution to be spineless.


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Then post something besides:

and you'll receive what you seek.


Saying its that is one thing, prove it to me with intelligent counter points or don't waste my time.


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Nothing is wrong with the democrats. Whats wrong with you?

I don't consider people with concerns for others to be "spineless" I consider ideologues who cant objectively look at a situation and work out a rational solution to be spineless.


You don't work something out when you believe the other side to be blatantly wrong.


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My problem is that you say all this stuff when it is not covered factually:

1) Democrats are the majority now. They have made a stand; you just missed it a while ago I guess. What do they have to be scared of? That demeans the whole notion of a democracy to begin with. If you really think that why do you think that is? What stopping the democrats?

2) You are making all these claims with no facts or links to anything.

3) You keep saying "stop the funding" but that's not realistic to just stop it today and move out. Politically, that's a killer for the US.

Not to mention, the war began with hidden agendas abound and there's no reason to think those do not still exist.


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You don't work something out when you believe the other side to be blatantly wrong.


1. its only a belief
2. We live in a democracy, that means government functions best when people actually analyze and talk.

3. becuase 100s of thoudsands of Americans who express a higher form of citizenship than you do are placed in direct jeapordy.


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Originally posted by Starhawk
For anyone interested in an intellegent debate...
...avoid your threads and posts?

You also misspelled intelligent. Ironic, n'est pas?


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My problem is that you say all this stuff when it is not covered factually:

1) Democrats are the majority now. They have made a stand; you just missed it a while ago I guess. What do they have to be scared of? That demeans the whole notion of a democracy to begin with. If you really think that why do you think that is? What stopping the democrats?

2) You are making all these claims with no facts or links to anything.

3) You keep saying "stop the funding" but that's not realistic to just stop it today and move out. Politically, that's a killer for the US.

Not to mention, the war began with hidden agendas abound and there's no reason to think those do not still exist.


1) They are scared the republicans will call them antiwar, anti-religon, anti-business. They don't have any faith in the American public to make the distinction,

2) I did post a link to the LA times. You want more? Watch any political commentary show.

3) No, it might actually help repair their world image.

And as I said, what right does the US have to go around telling other countries how to live when they can't fix the horrendous problems in their own country?


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1. its only a belief
2. We live in a democracy, that means government functions best when people actually analyze and talk.

3. becuase 100s of thoudsands of Americans who express a higher form of citizenship than you do are placed in direct jeapordy.


You live in a republic with certain democratic elements. And they are in jeopardy due to the war, the end of which might actually stop ticking off other countries and make them safer in the long run. Going to war has just made the middle east hate them and has done nothing to aid in their safety.


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Bush, Dems Give No Ground On Iraq

Want to know how long that took? Maybe 20 seconds to find. And that is while finishing off my Wendy's.

Step 1: www.yahoo.com

Step 2: Click 'In The News'

Step 3: Click 'Politics'

Step 4: Whatever you wanna click


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And as I said, what right does the US have to go around telling other countries how to live when they can't fix the horrendous problems in their own country?


1) Too late to repair world image. Everyone already hated America before this.

2) What country do you know that has their problems fixed? What horrendous problems are you talking about?


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Actually if you watch today's news, she gave allot of concessions.


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Maybe, just maybe, the Democrats aren't stupid enough to force a withdrawal of troops which will indubitably result in descent to all-out civil war in Iraq, if one assumes that it can't already be considered in such a state, with its myriad of consequential negative effects. Just maybe.


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Going to war has just made the middle east hate them and has done nothing to aid in their safety.


The region has some dislike for America since, at the very least, the mid 80's. AT THE VERY LEAST.


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Actually if you watch today's news, she gave allot of concessions.


Link. Link?


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