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1) Too late to repair world image. Everyone already hated America before this.

2) What country do you know that has their problems fixed? What horrendous problems are you talking about?


1)Then why not pull out and start trying to repair that image?

2)Homelessness, a crumbling education system, extreme lack of affordable health care, rampant corruption, just to name a few.


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1)Then why not pull out and start trying to repair that image?

2)Homelessness, a crumbling education system, extreme lack of affordable health care, rampant corruption, just to name a few.


1) Because at this point Iraq is in Hell regardless. The idea is to attempt to leave it in the best shape possible. I don't agree with the war but just leaving the people after tearing it down and leaving it in this condition would make THE IMAGE OF THE US WORSE.

2) What country doesn't have homelessness?

What country does not have an uneven system of education where all people receive an equal education?

I know of a few countries with "affordable" health care but that's hard to run on a federal level for a country with this many people.

Rampant corruption... what does that mean? Random crime? Rapes? Burglaries? You lost me because that would be everywhere. If you want to say US has more then I need some proof.

I do not agree with most of the decisions our politically chosen make, but I do not like hearing completely incorrect statements about the country I leave in. It is quite offensive.


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1) Because at this point Iraq is in Hell regardless. The idea is to attempt to leave it in the best shape possible. I don't agree with the war but just leaving the people after tearing it down and leaving it in this condition would make THE IMAGE OF THE US WORSE.

2) What country doesn't have homelessness?

What country does not have an uneven system of education where all people receive an equal education?

I know of a few countries with "affordable" health care but that's hard to run on a federal level for a country with this many people.

Rampant corruption... what does that mean? Random crime? Rapes? Burglaries? You lost me because that would be everywhere. If you want to say US has more then I need some proof.

I do not agree with most of the decisions our politically chosen make, but I do not like hearing completely incorrect statements about the country I leave in. It is quite offensive.


1. The problem is, I'm not convinced you can improve the shape of Iraq, no matter how long your there.

2. Actually, America is one of the few industrialized nations not to offer free health care. And again I see many American's speaking about the horrible state of your public school system. And by corruption I mean the fact that the republican party has been the focus of allot of court cases and investigations. If you watch Real Time with Bill Maher, he listed all of them off on the screen and it went on for a good minute.

My statements are simply supported by what I see and hear in the media.


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My statements are simply supported by what I see and hear in the media.


There's this thing called miseducation that you are going through. You can't watch a few stations and think you have the entire picture. You sound like Czarina.

Also, you skipped any mention of "rampant corruption." Please, explain.


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There's this thing called miseducation that you are going through. You can't watch a few stations and think you have the entire picture.

Also, you skipped any mention of "rampant corruption." Please, explain.


I watch political commentary shows, I read the main US newspapers and I watch CNN. Tell me what I am missing. I will try to find that Bill Maher clip on youtube, hold on.


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I watch political commentary shows, I read the main US newspapers and I watch CNN. Tell me what I am missing. I will try to find that Bill Maher clip on youtube, hold on.


Rational logic?


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Rational logic?


Prove that.


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Rational logic?

Again, I can go around and call everything a guy says stupid, that's easy to do.

Proving it is a tad harder though.


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It's a prequesite if you want to act "Holier then thou".


Don't call someone non-credible if you can't establish your own credibility.
You mistake me. I save serious points for serious discussions. And I'm anything but 'holier than thou' (at least I hope I am).

This is not a serious discussion. Starhawk is making irrational and baseless claims about America...and from a foreigner's perspective, no less. Yeah, I'm going to take it seriously roll eyes (sarcastic)


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You mistake me. I save serious points for serious discussions. And I'm anything but 'holier than thou' (at least I hope I am).

This is not a serious discussion. Starhawk is making irrational and baseless claims about America...and from a foreigner's perspective, no less. Yeah, I'm going to take it seriously roll eyes (sarcastic)


Prove it.


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They are liberals!Proabortion (well most of them)and want everything for themselves.Say what you must about the Republicans but for more Information read the book "How to talk to Liberals if you must" has a nice chapter on how the mind of a liberal works!jm


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They are liberals!Proabortion (well most of them)and want everything for themselves.Say what you must about the Republicans but for more Information read the book "How to talk to Liberals if you must" has a nice chapter on how the mind of a liberal works!jm


It's also written by the poster girl for Right Wing Extremism.


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Prove it.
You're the one making the claims, they're yours to prove.


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You're the one making the claims, they're yours to prove.


Actually no, you made claims about my points, I'm asking you to back them up.


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It's also written by the poster girl for Right Wing Extremism.


What are you talking about?jm confused


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What are you talking about?jm confused


I believe that book is written by Ann Coulter?


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Yes we went through that.Have you read it>jm


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Yes we went through that.Have you read it>jm


No, I have heard enough interviews with Ann Coulter to never want to read that book. And considering I've read many books by right wing politicians that's really saying something.


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I supose that is true.But don't believe everything people say.If Dems are the one saying these things to her.Then I would not believe what they are saying being that they hate her anyway.jm


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