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Interesting that you say this. Exactly what is YOUR definition of terrorism? As far as I know there will always be terrorism. an example would be the KKK or Neo Nazis... Maybe america should focus on its own problems instead of bullying other countries... When you say terrorism what and who are you exactly directing it towards? Iraq? Al queda? who? I'm not saying president bill clinton was exactly the best president. I will say in his defense, he did not make the nation look weak. Nor did he just sit on his ass and did nothing. smile
No, he sat on his ass and received head!

But joking aside, I think he was a good president.


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Interesting that you say this. Exactly what is YOUR definition of terrorism? As far as I know there will always be terrorism. an example would be the KKK or Neo Nazis... Maybe america should focus on its own problems instead of bullying other countries... When you say terrorism what and who are you exactly directing it towards? Iraq? Al queda? who? I'm not saying president bill clinton was exactly the best president. I will say in his defense, he did not make the nation look weak. Nor did he just sit on his ass and did nothing. smile


not even one of the best,he was one of the worst.thats kinda odd that you chose HIS post to quote on. confused


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Clinton was one of the worst presidents we've had. Bush isn't any better. HOW ABOUT SOME ONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO TAKE RESPONSABILTY


matter of fact this guy hit the nail right on the head.I couldnt have said it any better myself. thumb up wish he came around and posted here more often,we need more knowledgeable people like him in this section.


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you already replied to that post on the last page...


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matter of fact this guy hit the nail right on the head.I couldnt have said it any better myself. thumb up wish he came around and posted here more often,we need more knowledgeable people like him in this section.


Whoa there! I guess I was being a little modest when I said Clinton wasn't exactly the best president. Don't get me wrong. I know how bad a job he did. I will say he was no where near as bad as bush or nixon. well actually he's kinda close but not as bad. I liked Clinton as a president personally but i wouldn't vote for his wife. nor do i want him having any thing to do with the white house. thats just me.


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I couldnt have said it any better myself.
Well, you got that part right.


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Whoa there! I guess I was being a little modest when I said Clinton wasn't exactly the best president. Don't get me wrong. I know how bad a job he did. I will say he was no where near as bad as bush or nixon. well actually he's kinda close but not as bad. I liked Clinton as a president personally but i wouldn't vote for his wife. nor do i want him having any thing to do with the white house. thats just me.


you should read through this whole thread.the evidence is overwhelming that until Bush junior came along,Clinton was in a tie with DICK Nixon as the most evil and corrupted president of all time.Now Bush junior has that honor and he is in a second place tie with DICK now.Nixon,Johnson,Clinton,Reagan,both Bush presidents,they have committed autrocities as presidents that rival hitlers.You just never hear about them from the mainstream media cause they're are controlled by the CIA and they only want you to hear what THEY want you to hear.

you didnt answer my question though,which was-how come you decided to post that quote on j beoulfs here of all the posts here? I thought that was very odd. confused also,that guy is LONGGGGG gone from this site -hasnt been on here in ages so he's not around to talk about that.But that was by far the best post he ever made here when he WAS here was clinton DID in fact sit down and do nothing,sat down on his hands and had no interest in going after bin laden when he was president.which I talked about a couple pages back.neither Bush OR clinton had any interest in bin laden.


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Thanks.glad you liked it. smile yeah it seems like they have it all planned out for her to get elected to continue that dynasty.But I wouldnt be surprised if Obama got elected president and Mrs clinton vice president since clinton doesnt have enough delegates with Mrs Clinton controlling the world events and being in charge with Obama taking orders from her.Kinda like how Bush was running the country as vice president under Reagan and Reagan was just there for decoration. anyways,hope it doesnt pan out that way.they never give us a choice on good candidates to choose from so were screwed either way anyways.I think Clinton because of Mr clintons baggage carried over from his corrupted administration he ran might keep her from getting elected though. Ron Paul is our only hope and the mainstream media is going to extremes to black him out from the spotlight not giving him ANY media coverage at all.They do not want him in there which is why he wont get elected.

He has been on the independent ticket for most of us his years after initially being a republican but switched to independent when he found out that theres no difference at all between the republican and democrat party-that they sleep in bed toegther with the same world agenda. some people call them-the demopublicans and the republicrats since theres no difference between the two parties. He only went back to the republican party and is running on the republican ticket because he realises that the independent never gets elected. but yeah were screwed either way if its Clinton,Mccain or Obama.all 3 of them are members of the evil CFR organization.They never give us a choice to choose from..Ron Paul is the only one that isnt.He is the only one that represents the people instead of government business and government corporations so yeah like you said,the whole race is predictable and saddening.

They always leave us with hoping that the LESSER evil of the candidates gets elected.they never leave us with a choice to choose from.Obama is the lesser evil of the three from what is known about him so hopefully he is the one that they have decided to get elected.were still screwed though either way.He is the lesser evil of the 3 but like i said,he's not ufor us,he's only for big businesses and big corporations.You dont become elected unless your a member of the CFR which he became one about a year ago and of course as everyone knows,the CFR is an evil organization that considers people who are not rich,powerful and corrupt,the enemy of the world.

thats why Ron Paul is not a member of that group because he knows all about their evil doings and doesnt want to have anything to do with them which is why it would be great if he somehow got elected.


Matter of fact,here is a recent post of mine you should read on why having clinton in office was horrible for us and having another clinton will be just as bad and WHY Ron Paul is the only candidate who is for the people.That we are screwed if he doesnt get elected.ALL the other candidates are evil and corrupted as this post shows.


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something else i want to add to that about Ron Paul is the CFR,they do not want Paul in office.They are going to all kinds of extremes to make sure that he doesnt get elected.For one,they announced on the major media networks,that he had dropped out of the race for the white house.Thats an example of how you cant trust anything the media tells you when it comes to world events and politics. Because thats not true at all,he is still out there campaining and running for president,the media is just not reporting it.Thats why there is a media conspiracy blackout going against ron paul since they dont want him in there.If you notice,he is not getting ANY media coverage at all even though he hasnt dropped out,they are just talking about the big three-clinton,obama,and mccain.they dont care if any of those three get in because they are all members of the CFR and will do what they ask them to.To give you an idea of how the media is trying to sabatoge pauls efforts to run for the presidency,they did not allow him to participate in the new hampshire primarys which is illegal-thats fraud to not allow a candidate to come on and express his views.He was on jay Leno talking about it and Leno was saying to him-I thought that was really unfair how they didnt allow you to participate in the new hampshire primarys.and he said-yeah it WAS unfair,amtter of fact,we are filing a lawsuit against the state of new hampshire for this.But that wont do any good because they already dismanteled the vote machines so they cant prove anything.they always cover ther trails.


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Again, pretty interesting stuff...

Ron Paul would have been a pretty good president, too... Except I'm not entirely sure about a few things... I heard that he wanted to get rid of a certain tax, and that it would benefit big business a lot more than the common citizen... Can anyone comment on this?

And I called it: Clinton is gonna win the Nomination... If you look at how many delegates she has, she is gaining Obama, and there are 8 primaries left, which means she can still win, so there is no doubt in my mind Clinton was picked to win... And she'll be in office for 8 years, too (again, no doubt in my mind)... And even if she doesn't get nominated, she's GUARANTEED to be Vice, so there's no escape even if I'm wrong about the Nomination...

I really hate life... You'd think we'd be able to see this stuff coming a mile away, but we continue to be blind to it... Are we really unable to see it? Or are we just pretending to not see it, simply because we like the picture they've painted for us, and we don't want to deal with the harsh reality?

Again, interesting stuff...


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you should read through this whole thread.the evidence is overwhelming that until Bush junior came along,Clinton was in a tie with DICK Nixon as the most evil and corrupted president of all time.Now Bush junior has that honor and he is in a second place tie with DICK now.Nixon,Johnson,Clinton,Reagan,both Bush presidents,they have committed autrocities as presidents that rival hitlers.You just never hear about them from the mainstream media cause they're are controlled by the CIA and they only want you to hear what THEY want you to hear.

you didnt answer my question though,which was-how come you decided to post that quote on j beoulfs here of all the posts here? I thought that was very odd. confused also,that guy is LONGGGGG gone from this site -hasnt been on here in ages so he's not around to talk about that.But that was by far the best post he ever made here when he WAS here was clinton DID in fact sit down and do nothing,sat down on his hands and had no interest in going after bin laden when he was president.which I talked about a couple pages back.neither Bush OR clinton had any interest in bin laden.


Sorry for not answering you question.
I posted that before I started reading through the thread. That was my fault. It's amazing how much information the government doesn't want you to know about. I also find it interesting how you come across so much information. At least you resources to back up you claims. And that being said speaks for it's self. I will ask though what do you mean by neither bush or clinton had interest in bin laden. I know Clinton didn't but bush seem to play it off as he did have some interest.. Sorry for the silly question but I'm Interested.


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Again, pretty interesting stuff...

Ron Paul would have been a pretty good president, too... Except I'm not entirely sure about a few things... I heard that he wanted to get rid of a certain tax, and that it would benefit big business a lot more than the common citizen... Can anyone comment on this?

And I called it: Clinton is gonna win the Nomination... If you look at how many delegates she has, she is gaining Obama, and there are 8 primaries left, which means she can still win, so there is no doubt in my mind Clinton was picked to win... And she'll be in office for 8 years, too (again, no doubt in my mind)... And even if she doesn't get nominated, she's GUARANTEED to be Vice, so there's no escape even if I'm wrong about the Nomination...

I really hate life... You'd think we'd be able to see this stuff coming a mile away, but we continue to be blind to it... Are we really unable to see it? Or are we just pretending to not see it, simply because we like the picture they've painted for us, and we don't want to deal with the harsh reality?

Again, interesting stuff...

Lets hope you're wrong about clinton then and she doesn't get vice. or even the nomination. I'm tired of the clintons. and Bushes.... Sad to say some people won't vote for obama just because the color of his skin. either way we're screwed. rolling on floor laughing


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Lets hope you're wrong about clinton then and she doesn't get vice. or even the nomination. I'm tired of the clintons. and Bushes.... Sad to say some people won't vote for obama just because the color of his skin. either way we're screwed. rolling on floor laughing


Well every action has a consequence, if these religious conservative Luddite nuts continue to cause dissonance there will be consequences. They'll be responsible for their own fate, you can't stop the lemmings that are hell bent on jumping of a cliff, into the abyss, without basically sacrificing at least one to stop them[unless you learn the rules underneath and cheat, that is...].


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Again, pretty interesting stuff...

Ron Paul would have been a pretty good president, too... Except I'm not entirely sure about a few things... I heard that he wanted to get rid of a certain tax, and that it would benefit big business a lot more than the common citizen... Can anyone comment on this?

And I called it: Clinton is gonna win the Nomination... If you look at how many delegates she has, she is gaining Obama, and there are 8 primaries left, which means she can still win, so there is no doubt in my mind Clinton was picked to win... And she'll be in office for 8 years, too (again, no doubt in my mind)... And even if she doesn't get nominated, she's GUARANTEED to be Vice, so there's no escape even if I'm wrong about the Nomination...

I really hate life... You'd think we'd be able to see this stuff coming a mile away, but we continue to be blind to it... Are we really unable to see it? Or are we just pretending to not see it, simply because we like the picture they've painted for us, and we don't want to deal with the harsh reality?

Again, interesting stuff...


I guarantee you it was the mainstream CIA controlled media reporting that if THAT was mentioned about Ron Paul Batdude cause thats not true at all.yeah she may not get elected president but yeah your right,we wont be able to escape her cause shes guaranteed to be vice even if she doesnt get elected.so she'll be pulling the strings running the country and obama will be there for just pure decoration just like as i said before,where reagan was just deocration as president when it was REALLY Bush running the country.yep theres pleanty of of people out there who sadly is just pretending to NOT see it,that there is no difference between the two parties and they have the same agenda. sad


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Sorry for not answering you question.
I posted that before I started reading through the thread. That was my fault. It's amazing how much information the government doesn't want you to know about. I also find it interesting how you come across so much information. At least you resources to back up you claims. And that being said speaks for it's self. I will ask though what do you mean by neither bush or clinton had interest in bin laden. I know Clinton didn't but bush seem to play it off as he did have some interest.. Sorry for the silly question but I'm Interested.


yeah it IS amazing how much information there is out there on presidents that we just never hear about.Not surprising though since the mainstream press is controlled by the corporate elite though and they are only going to tell you what they want you to hear.sometimes they will print the truth about things and mix it in with lies because they have to tell the truth about SOME things cause if they ALWAYS lied,people would never blindly swallow their disinformation and lies they propagate all the time and get away with.

well its not really all that amazing that I have come across all this information really.I just happen to like to read a lot and have always been interested in american history and the school systems are never going to tell you the autrocities presidents commit since they are funded by the government,so I just have read a lot of books from librarys over the years on Clinton that document all his autrocities he has committed.some of the authors who write the books served under his administration and had top classified information they had access to so you know the information is documented and true.

I mean serving under a president and making false accusations against him which can be proven untrue, is enough to put someone in prison for libel so a lot of them put their lifes on the line to talk about it. there is this one book called NO ONE LEFT TO LIE TO by this author who documents how so many people who served under his administration left and resigned because they saw how corrupted his administration was.Not since the Nixon administration,have so many people left an administration because of how corrupt it was.

thanks,yeah the resources i have mentioned through this thread are all reliable and true,they cant be disproven.their all facts.a lot of the things mentioned in this thread as you have found out yourself,are serious charges against him and the last thing some author is going to do is falsely accuse a president of these things he did without having evidence to back it up.That would mean jailtime for them.you'll never catch clinton suing these authors cause he knows its true and can be proven.It would be all over the news and everybody would find out if he HIMSELF sued someone.

and thats not a silly question.glad to hear you ask that cause it shows you have an openess to learn. smile when I say neither Bush or clinton had an interest in Bin Laden,what I mean is they had several opportunitys to either take him out or capture him but showed no interest in doing so.as i said eariler,it was all over the news back in 99 that a high ranking official came on the mainstream nightly news and said that they knew where Bin Laden was and could capture or take him out if neccessary,but according to him,Clinton told the military and high chain command to back off and leave him alone.make sense,clinton is extremely evil and corrupted so he wouldnt have any interest in going after a known terrorist.sad but true.and as far as Bush? well after he was sworn in,he spent the first year vacationing,ignoring FBI reports that they had information on Bin Laden and that there would be terrorist attacks against the united states.top FBI officials got so disgusted with Bush and attorney general john ashcroft that they took their information to a widely known lawyer who begged ashcroft to look at their information they had on terrorists and ashcroft totally ignored him.he never returned the lawyers calls or anything.just completely ignored him.


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Lets hope you're wrong about clinton then and she doesn't get vice. or even the nomination. I'm tired of the clintons. and Bushes.... Sad to say some people won't vote for obama just because the color of his skin. either way we're screwed. rolling on floor laughing


yeah were screwed if we get another clinton in office,god that would so totally suck to have a dynasty of the most evil and corrupted familys being in the white house for another 8 more years.But its something you need to be prepared for.and like he said,were screwed anyways even if she doesnt get the nomination cause she may be vice which is every bit as bad cause she'll STILL be running the country.Obama doesnt have the interest in the people either so if ANY of the CFR big names get in-clinton,obama,or mccain,were f#cked.


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I always wanted to get this posted on this thread since it was something Winter posted once on that real long thread of his since it has to do with the clinton/buch connection but he never got around to it so here it is now since it also as well talks about the clinton/bush connection.Not so much as in detail the way I have talked about it but still he did talk a little of it so I feel its worthy of being mentioned here as well since he brought it up on his thread.this was what he posted and goes on to say-

With this information in mind,we need to look at the recent figureheads who have "run" this country.George Bush Sr,and Bill Clinton.Elder Bush was the head of the CIA from 1975-1976 and his link with this organization dates back to the late 1950's or early 1960's.His zapata offshore oil rigs have also been linked to the transfer of narcotics shipments from south america to the united states.

When the biggest drug smuggler in american history {Barry Seal} was killed by a volley of gunfire,guess whose private phone number was found in his wallet? George Bush Sr's.As head of the CIA,do you really think he didn't know what was going on? c'mon!

As for Bill Clinton,his link to the Mena Airport is arkansas is so strong that it would be easy to graduate from turning a blind eye at the state level to a national scale.Now we need to look at our current president George W Bush.Considering who his father is and his own cocaine/party past,do you think theres and possibility that he's ignorant of what the secret team is doing? fat chance.

Okay that was everything WINTER posted on his thread.I just wanted to add that its pretty ironic that the last two presidents we had,Clinton and Bush jr,BOTH engaged in cocaine partys.matter of fact,rumor has it that there was a photo circulating around on the internet at one time with Clinton and Bush jr seen together doing coke. I also talked on the last few pages how Clinton seems to have an unusual high connection to the CIA like Bush does that governors arent in a high enough position of power to have the high level connections to the CIA that a president does but which Clinton already appeared to have as governor of arkansas back then.Its pretty obvious that he has always been a CIA asset to be able to get L.D. BROWN a job with the CIA back then like I talked about.


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well latest news is MRS Clinton might consider being Obamas vice president.that happens,god help us all.Obama has terrorists ties and with clinton one of the top 3 most evil and corrupted presidents of all timehaving his wife be Obama's vice,that could even worse than Bush as president.wouldnt be surprising.you go back to when Reagan was president,and every president that gets in there is always worse than the previous one so it will get even worse.you can count on that.


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the thing about Obama is that His REAL name isnt Barack.Its Hussein.Its Hussein muhammed something Obama.That being the case,why are they lying to us about his real name and covering it up? They may want HIM to get elected cause he may be even worse than the clintons.Like I said,since Reagan,they have gotten worse each time.They may have thought that it might be too obvious that a dynasty was in place if they had clinton get elected this time.so they will probably have her get elected four years from now.


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Mr. Parker picked up on an interesting point there about the Corporate Elite who control the Media. In the UK Rupert Murdoch runs the largest satellite provider- BskyB and also some very influential Newspapers...i.e. the Times. However, probably his best known publication in Britain in The Sun...noone in their right mind takes what the paper has to say seriously- even the language is poor standard designed to appeal to your average joe bloggs. Anyway, theres nothing sinister in itself about owning a large Media Company however, when you think about the amount of power he has over the manipulation of world events in his papers...surely you have to get a little worried?

As for Sen. Obama, I'm sure that he will be his own president as much as any of his predecessors were.


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