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USA 46 31.72%
France 15 10.34%
United Kingdom 21 14.48%
Germany 1 0.69%
Italy 0 0%
Australia 2 1.38%
Pakistan 12 8.28%
Israel 17 11.72%
North Korea 16 11.03%
Other 15 10.34%
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Your least favourite nation?
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Fishy
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Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I think its wierd that Turkey is a secular republic, because it has the star and crescent emblazoned on its flag.



So do I, man.

Then again, we're both from Phoenix, so we both hear it all the time. I hear it mostly from old rich White people who live in Sun City and Awatuki.


The flag has nothing to do with religious motives.. It may have been created because of it, but right now it's just the historical flag of Turkey. There are plenty of other country's out there, secular country's that have crosses or references to God on their flag, or their coin or whatever. Just look at the US, doesn't it say something about God on the dollar bill?

Actually I believe I once read that the Turkish flag or at the time the Ottoman flag was the reason the star and the crescent became religious signs, could be wrong here but still point remains religious symbols on important national items don't automatically make the country a religious state.


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The flag has nothing to do with religious motives.. It may have been created because of it, but right now it's just the historical flag of Turkey. There are plenty of other country's out there, secular country's that have crosses or references to God on their flag, or their coin or whatever. Just look at the US, doesn't it say something about God on the dollar bill?

Actually I believe I once read that the Turkish flag or at the time the Ottoman flag was the reason the star and the crescent became religious signs, could be wrong here but still point remains religious symbols on important national items don't automatically make the country a religious state.


I never heard that one before? But no, its not the case.

Crescent Moon and Star are an old Arabic symbols from the time Il-illaha was worshiped - The Moon God and his two dauthers.
It was even found in temple dedicated to Il-illaha in south Saudi Arabia.


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I never heard that one before? But no, its not the case.

Crescent Moon and Star are an old Arabic symbols from the time Il-illaha was worshiped - The Moon God and his two dauthers.
It was even found in temple dedicated to Il-illaha in south Saudi Arabia.


I looked it up on Wiki just to be sure and it had this to say

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The traditional, national and cultural symbols of the Turkic peoples include the star and crescent—used as a symbol of Turks since pre-Islamic times[citation needed] when they aspired to Shamanism—wolves, a part of Turkic mythology and tradition; as well as the color blue, iron and fire.


It does mention the things being used before Islamic times...


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A lot of countries where Ottoman Empire never reached use the symbol for example, Pakistan and Malaysia.

edit - note how star is actually different on other islamic flags to Turkish one. It probably is irrelevant, but interesting.


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A lot of countries where Ottoman Empire never reached use the symbol for example, Pakistan and Malaysia.

edit - note how star is actually different on other islamic flags to Turkish one. It probably is irrelevant, but interesting.


Yeah well the symbol definitely became religious, I'm not denying that. Just saying it was used as something else before it became religious.


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My point is if you hate this land so damn much, then dudes just leave. Nobody is holding you guys hostage here. Go to Congo or Somalia where you get butt raped everyday of your life just for not kissing the local mobboss's dirty crusty Athlete's foot invested hoofs. Go live in other countries and see how much you appreciate this land. I love people who bash this country but when overseas and they screw up because most of the laws there are stupid or just too damn complex, the same America haters are crying and pleading for the first Embassy they can find for safe haven. Hypocrital pigs!!!God Bless this land

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Has it ever crossed your mind that the people who are complaining about your blessed America, don't live there? Do you wank over the stars and stripes?


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Originally posted by LordFear
My point is if you hate this land so damn much, then dudes just leave. Nobody is holding you guys hostage here. Go to Congo or Somalia where you get butt raped everyday of your life just for not kissing the local mobboss's dirty crusty Athlete's foot invested hoofs. Go live in other countries and see how much you appreciate this land. I love people who bash this country but when overseas and they screw up because most of the laws there are stupid or just too damn complex, the same America haters are crying and pleading for the first Embassy they can find for safe haven. Hypocrital pigs!!!God Bless this land


I don't live in the US and I actually like it very much thank you. wink

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Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Has it ever crossed your mind that the people who are complaining about your blessed America, don't live there? Do you wank over the stars and stripes?


Freakin' liberals. All their fault.


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I think I'll go to the nation of Flordia... cool

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Spain.

Those Spanish pricks! mad


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Well you can't judge a people because of it's government, so I guess I don't have a least favorite nation.

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Spain.

Those Spanish pricks! mad
but the food is yummy.


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Statement: Isral


Observation:

America was a fine nation up untill it involved itself with Isral. Then it became a haphazard socialism.


Conclusion:

It is no quincidence Jews are liberals and now America is too. Islam is in the right to eradicate this dangerous disease, take thier Jew gold, and improve thier economy without the big nosed war-mongrels monopolizing the world.


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Jews are not a race. They are a nation (Isral) and a religion (Judaism). Just because they are egotistical bastards and want to call every sortof class asscosiation possible so they can whine about being discriminated against when infact they are ussualy in the upper-middle class region does not make them a damn race.

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Statement: Isral


Observation:

America was a fine nation up untill it involved itself with Isral. Then it became a haphazard socialism.


Conclusion:

It is no quincidence Jews are liberals and now America is too. Islam is in the right to eradicate this dangerous disease, take thier Jew gold, and improve thier economy without the big nosed war-mongrels monopolizing the world.


Comment:

Jews are not a race. They are a nation (Isral) and a religion (Judaism). Just because they are egotistical bastards and want to call every sortof class asscosiation possible so they can whine about being discriminated against when infact they are ussualy in the upper-middle class region does not make them a damn race.


People like you actually give them a good reason to cry discrimination ...


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I hate Italy and yes that includes all Italians.
They are scum personified and that country should be nuked to hell.


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this is my least favorite thread.


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I hate Italy and yes that includes all Italians.
They are scum personified and that country should be nuked to hell.





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I hate Saudi Arabia.


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