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Your only validation that they work is that people say that they work but if someone says that they have seen aliens or have been abducted you don’t believe them, seems like a double standard. You believe in spirits and demons so if someone says that they have seen one your naturally believe them but if they say that they seen something you don’t believe in your need to see proof, so what is the difference?
If these games worked and the spirits were communicating through the person they would work if the subject could see or not, but they do not. This has been tested over and over with the same results, or are you telling us that the spirit can only see if the person can see?
We have no record of anyone anywhere in the Bible communicating with an angel of God on their own initiative. If God chooses to dispatch an angel to you to deliver a message from Him then communicating with the angel is permitted. But to just arbitrarily attempt to contact the spirit world through a divining device (i.e. an Angel Board, Witch Board, Ouija Board, and the like) are expressly forbidden by God.
The guy who created the Angel Board was not a Christian, he was someone who was involved with the occult. Specifically, he was referred to as a mystic or shaman.
You continually present a bunch of links or quote scripture, get up on a soapbox and preach. You don' t want to discuss things like the rest of us. That is what you are doing wrong, and it is also not what this forum is intended for.
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Why don’t you tell a paranoid person that they are not being followed, do you think they will believe you as well? My words don’t fall on deaf ears just misguided ones. I have asked you to explain why these games do not work if you are blindfolded and you have said nothing; they have been tested over and over with the same results. No and actually I posted about the ideomotor effect before she did and you ignored that post as you normally do, and no you didn’t “exploded” anything all you said that it is real without sighting anything other than other peoples personal accounts.
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They are just as dangerous as a gun, if you don’t know how the car works such as the brake or gas you can kill yourself or other, if you don’t know how electricity works in your TV you can shock yourself and die, if you don’t know how medicine works you can overdose and die. The only level of understanding that you need to know is the basics to operate something safely as with the gun, car or whatever but your analogy is way off.
You have digressed from the issue under discussion. Goddess Kali said nothing to me about preaching (or soapboxes for that matter) in his tirade. His issue was with the website (get back on point Storm).
That is because I have common sense (I know you thought Christians were uneducated, backwards, slow, naive, and unsophisticated--but we are not).
I believe that spirits and demons exist first because the Bible says so. Second, because we live in a world that has been proven to have paranormal activity (which substantiates the fact that there is another realm or dimension outside of this physical, three-dimensional world). Third, there are many (myself included) who can attest to the fact that spirits and demons exist because we have experienced, seen, or encountered them firsthand. Finally, I have never in my life seen or encountered in some way, shape, or form an alien, a spaceship, or any other sci-fi object so I cannot truthfully speak on it from experience.
Lastly, the ideometer effect has nothing to do with being blindfolded or sight (that is irrelevant and immaterial), it is simply the belief that those who use Ouija Boards are subconsciously making small, involuntary movements (as I said previously, a person can do this with or without a blindfold so your point is exploded). Nevertheless, this does not negate nor change the fact that Ouija Boards do work).
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I feel sorry for you, because your world is filled with so much fear. I live in a totally different world. There are no demons, or spirits, and the true power of happiness is something that I create in my life.
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No I didn’t unless you mean that you don’t even know that a gun fires a bullet or even has bullets or that a gun is even a gun. How do you keep doing this, the ideomotor effect is if they can see the board and they get the results that you are talking about. If you take the same person and blindfold them which would negate the ideomotor effect then all you get is gibberish which proves that the game is BS, this has been tested over and over. Show me one example of someone who has done this blindfolded and gotten anything other than gibberish.
And please don’t try and assume that I’m saying that Christians and others of faith are dumb or naïve, hell my wife is Catholic and some of my best and smartest friends are religious.
We argued that the reason why ouija boards appear to work is because of the ideomotor effect.
When blindfolded, the ideomotor effect is still there but where the users previously used to produce intelligible messages, they now produce unintelligible messages. If the messages were the result of paranormal or supernatural forces, the ouija board users would be able to spell intelligible messages all the time, regardless of being blindfolded or not.
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I am not driven by people’ s praise and I am not slowed down by people’ s criticism.
You only live once. But if you live it right, once is enough. Wrong. We only die once, we live every day!
Make poverty history.
How you inferred that my life is filled with fear from the previous post I find enigmatic.
Quite the contrary Shakyamunison you see the Bible states that we (i.e. Christians) have not been given a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. Furthermore, the Bible states that the wicked flee when no one pursues, but the righteous are bold as a lion. Moreover, the Bible reveals that the love of God has been shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Spirit, and that there is no fear in love. But that perfect love casts out fear because fear involves torment.
Your denial of the existence of demons and spirits is cursorily dismissive, and as has been customary with you, devoid of any substantiation.
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