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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I surmise that you have never read all four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) from beginning to end (I can tell by your ignorance on Who Jesus is).
the four Gospels, written by humans, people who can lie, deciet and imagine just like any other. How would this at all benefit, i may as well read a story book about Jesus written by 10 year olds. There is no way anyone could be assured that Jesus was truly the son of God, unless God himself wrote a novel on it
the people who believed in God at those times were desperate, treated unfarely, its only fair that someone named Jesus tried to take advantage and the gulliable humans believed him, he probably did well for himself, more of a crook in truth than a savior, "ime jesus, can i come in your home", "yes milord have all our well earned food, have our food stocks"...
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You can't tell who Jesus was by the bible. The accounts of Jesus were written between 60 and 90 years after he died.
Well, we all know how reliable "word of mouth" accounts are, especially after being told and retold, decade after decade.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Burning thought
the four Gospels, written by humans, people who can lie, deciet and imagine just like any other. How would this at all benefit, i may as well read a story book about Jesus written by 10 year olds. There is no way anyone could be assured that Jesus was truly the son of God, unless God himself wrote a novel on it
the people who believed in God at those times were desperate, treated unfarely, its only fair that someone named Jesus tried to take advantage and the gulliable humans believed him, he probably did well for himself, more of a crook in truth than a savior, "ime jesus, can i come in your home", "yes milord have all our well earned food, have our food stocks"... Its like the Heaven's Gate cult
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Well, we all know how reliable "word of mouth" accounts are, especially after being told and retold, decade after decade.
We may not really know anything about the teachings of Jesus.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ThePittman
Its like the Heaven's Gate cult
if theres such a place as heaven theres bound to be thousands of mangy, rottenised believers from ancients times going along the streets
eww heaven and hell sound just about as bad as eachother to me, eternal life itself makes me , what could you possibly do for eternity....as soon as you try and have some good old sex god will give you a slap over the head, at least in hell its madness and sin left right and center, and you get all those sinful porn girls
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
Upset? What is it with you and all your accounts accusing everyone else of getting upset?
Jesus "admitted"? What is there to admit? Being god made flesh is nothing to "admit" to.
As for trips around the ferris wheel, the number of times we go around is up to you and your descision to explain the trinity to us over and over again, when that isn't the issue. And it can't be only me that "isn't bright enough to get it". Everyone on here has called your analogies silly.
basic, fundamental and bible are all interesting examples of word usage, given the topic.
I conclude that you must be upset because of the tone of your words (you sound upset).
I am explaining the triune nature of God to you .
Actually, given the topic (i.e. the thread topic) we are off-topic .
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Burning thought
the four Gospels, written by humans, people who can lie, deciet and imagine just like any other. How would this at all benefit, i may as well read a story book about Jesus written by 10 year olds. There is no way anyone could be assured that Jesus was truly the son of God, unless God himself wrote a novel on it
the people who believed in God at those times were desperate, treated unfarely, its only fair that someone named Jesus tried to take advantage and the gulliable humans believed him, he probably did well for himself, more of a crook in truth than a savior, "ime jesus, can i come in your home", "yes milord have all our well earned food, have our food stocks"...
Thanks for proving my point that you have never read the four Gospels.
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Jun 12th, 2007 10:22 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Thanks for proving my point that you have never read the four Gospels.
How do you know, I have read them and many others just because he or anyone else doesn't mean they don't "understand".
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Jun 12th, 2007 10:25 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Thanks for proving my point that you have never read the four Gospels.
He is correct though; it boils down to faith, as it is factually impossible to prove that Jesus was/is indeed God made flesh.
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Jun 12th, 2007 10:27 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I conclude that you must be upset because of the tone of your words (you sound upset).
I am explaining the triune nature of God to you .
Actually, given the topic (i.e. the thread topic) we are off-topic .
Your view of the triune nature of "God".
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Jun 12th, 2007 10:27 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ThePittman
How do you know, I have read them and many others just because he or anyone else doesn't mean they don't "understand".
I think JIA means they don't understand it like he does, which means they're wrong of course. I mean, how can JIA be wrong about teh christianityz?
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Jun 12th, 2007 10:28 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by AngryManatee
I think JIA means they don't understand it like he does, which means they're wrong of course. I mean, how can JIA be wrong about teh christianityz? By Posting?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I conclude that you must be upset because of the tone of your words (you sound upset).
He's just an *******...he's not upset about anything.
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He's just an *******...he's not upset about anything.
What does ******* mean?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is why it is called an analogy . Do you understand what an analogy is? Do you understand the purpose of an analogy? The triune God is like a fraternity (notice I said like not is to denote the fact that I am just using the concept of a fraternity to simply illustrate spiritual Truth or reality. I don't literally mean that the triune God is a fraternity ). You get fixated on the analogy and totally forget that I only used it side by side with what I am explaining to illustrate what I am explaining .
*Whew* Having said all of that the triune God is like a fraternity in this respect only: there are members and they are equal, but for sake of order there is one who directs the other members (although they are equal) .
See, it's not just me that wonders why you refuse to acknowledge or answer questions, opting to misdirect the conversation or got off on one of your "inspirational" lectures...all along never gaining yourself any credit by answering the question. Even if the answer is easily argued or blatantly wrong, you'd still get a little more respect by answering the questions. Your faith is so strong that nothing anyone says is going to shake your convictions, so being publically wrong is better than not answering the question at all.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
The positive answer is that the religion forum should be renamed the "christianity forum", and that any response that doesn't fit into the biblical masturbation category is off topic and irrelevant.
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What does ******* mean?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But that is 10 letters, you had 7.
I'm just defending my good buddy Jesusisalive...after all the **** he gives me, I owe him atleast that much
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ThePittman
So if I get this right at the beginning God was one person/thing/entity or whatever then created a son and a holy spirit then brought them back and made both of them/it rulers of heaven as well as him? So do they all act, think and behave the same? If so then they would be more of an aspect of God and not separate in themselves as with your board analogy, they all have different views and values.
No, you have not gotten it right. In the beginning God was Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Here in the year 2007 God is still Father, Son, Holy Spirit. In the future and throughout eternity God will be Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
Jesus has always been the Son of God (i.e. the uncreated, second Person in the triune God).
The Holy Spirit has always been God (i.e. the uncreated, third Person in the triune God). They all think in harmony and agreement because they are one God (remember my Board example? One Board, more than one member in that Board, separate and distinct, but yet in agreement about how the corporation should be run. Again, this is just an illustration, don't become fixated on it and miss the point of the illustration which is to expound the triune nature of God and how They function).
Main Entry: 2 triune
Function: adjective
Date: 1632
: three in one: a: of or relating to the Trinity <the triune God> b: consisting of three parts, members, or aspects
The triune God is one God, consisting of more than one member in that trinity, separate an distinct Persons, yet in agreement about how the universe and everything in it should be run.
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