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Originally posted by Bardock42
What is your point?

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Notice that the Lord Jesus did not answer any of the petty questions.

Jesus just admitted and affirmed that He was the Christ the SON OF THE BLESSED meaning that He is the Son of God. The high priest, the chief priests, the elders, and the scribes were present when those words came out of Jesus mouth. They KNEW exactly what Jesus was saying. Well, just what was Jesus saying? First let's look at the high priest's reaction to what Jesus said

they all condemned Him to be deserving of death

The high priest called Jesus affirmation of being the Christ (Anointed One), the Son of the Blessed (God) blasphemy. Now why would they accuse Jesus of such a serious charge? By Jesus Christ affirming that He is the Christ (i.e. Anointed One), the Son of the Blessed (i.e. the Son of God), He is saying that He and the Father are equal, one God (in the same fraternity if you would). The high priest knew this that is why he (the high priest) tore his own clothes then said that what Jesus had said was blasphemy.

Here is Matthew's account of what took place as Jesus stood before the high priest.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
My point is that God is one yet manifested in three, distinct Persons.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus is divine (why do you think that He is called the Son of God?) That is like saying that since you are not your father that you do not share his lineage, last name, and DNA.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Once again stop getting fixated on my analogies and simply understand them for they are: illustrations. I am starting to believe that you have the least amount of understanding on this forum with regard to spiritual things so I will perhaps have to spend a lot of individual time explaining these realities with you.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I find it very alarming that you still lack basic understanding of spiritual things considering that you claim to have been exposed to Catholicism since your youth (no doubt a testament to the fact that there is no true teaching of Scriptrue taking place in the Catholic Church).

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Note: I edited out the bible quotes for simplicity.

This is irrelevant. Still, the reason for people calling Jesus the son of god has nothing to do with rather Jesus was divine. I’m sure that someone can come up with all kinds of quotes about Buddha being divine, but that has to do with belief, not fact.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus was talking to His Father in Heaven (I don't understand why you do not see this). I have already explained that Jesus is not the Father. The Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit are one God--not one Person. Let me give you another example to help you understand the triune God. A corporation has a Board of Directors at the top of it's hierarchy. This Board consists of officers who are equal yet separate, distinct, individuals. So although there is one Board, there is more than one member that makes up the board. God is one (just like the Board in my example), but made up of more than one member (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). God is more of a title, position, or office than an individual Person. Many times in the Bible the term God is used to refer to the Father specifically, this is what leads people to believe that God is one Person. But God is not one Person. There is one God title or office just as there is on Board of Directors in a corporation. But God consists of more than one Person just as a Board of Directors consists of more than one person. No matter how many members in the Board of Directors, there is still only one Board relative to all of the other entities in a corporation. Similarly, no matter how many Persons in God, there is still only one God because God is more of a title, office, or position relative to created beings.

Does this help you understand the triune God Devil King?

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You failed to notice the fact that Jesus admitted and affirmed that He is the Son of God when asked point blank if He was (so what does this have to do with people?).

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Originally posted by Devil King
I think he's called the son of god because that's what men decided to call him. As far as my education has shown, he was the son of a carpenter, who had some groovy ideas about how we should all just get along. As for my DNA, I don't claim to be the immaculately concieved, carbon copy of only one parent.



Make your analogies more logical and no one will have a problem with them. And while I'm sure that your religiously repressed homosexual fantasies are starting to get the best of you, I'll have to decline our one-on-one time.

Oh, and you explaining reality to me makes about as much sense as your board room analogy.



Lack basic spiritual understanding? I would have assumed you'd accuse me of having exactly that: a basic understanding. Unlike yourself, who has managed the wring the truth out of life, I've only had 12 years of religiouos education, which I recieved from both catholics and non-catholics.

As for your jab at the catholic church, what am I supposed to do? Defend one delusional concept over another?

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus Himself admitted that He is the Son of God when He was asked point blank if He was the Son of the Blessed (i.e. the Son of God), so what does this have to do with people? Your supposition that Jesus was the Son of God because that is what people decided to call Him is embarrasingly erroneous.

Don't blame me because my analogy was the second trip around the ferris wheel for you and you still couldn't comprehend it (that is your shortcoming).

Again, don't blame me because you cannot undestand reality.

Yes, you Devil King lack basic, fundamental understanding of the Bible that is why you get so upset.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus Himself admitted that He is the Son of God when He was asked point blank if He was the Son of the Blessed (i.e. the Son of God), so what does this have to do with people? Your supposition that Jesus was the Son of God because that is what people decided to call Him is embarrasingly erroneous.

Don't blame me because my analogy was the second trip around the ferris wheel for you and you still couldn't comprehend it (that is your shortcoming).

Again, don't blame me because you cannot undestand reality.

Yes, you Devil King lack basic, fundamental understanding of the Bible that is why you get so upset.

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Originally posted by Devil King
As for trips around the ferris wheel, the number of times we go around is up to you and your descision to explain the trinity to us over and over again, when that isn't the issue.

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Originally posted by Quiero Mota
If thats not the issue, then what are you arguing?

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Originally posted by Devil King
But why would Jesus shrug off the responsability of forgiving the people who crucified him, unless it wasn't his place to do so?

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Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Good question.

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Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That analogy is inheretly flawed because not everyone in a board room is equal; there's a definite hierarchy.

Its called The Trinity, not Jesus & Co.

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Originally posted by Burning thought
jesus is exactley what the romans thought he was, a lunatic, and he got put right where he belongs, well okie maybe thats a little cruel a fate but at least he got put out of his madness/lies. Greatest conman ever, give him a trophy.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I surmise that you have never read all four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) from beginning to end (I can tell by your ignorance on Who Jesus is).