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Well, he has to be bonded to the symbiote to be Carnage. He doesn't have to cover his face all the time.



Sonics do not work on Carnage anymore, but they do on Venom. Still Brock entered the cell and it didn't hurt him, so I believe Cletus could have turned if he wanted to. Also look at Carnage's face when Venom kills all the guards in seconds. "impossible" he said.


Sonics do work, they just weaken him a little now but not seperate him from the symbiote, well maybe carnage thought he couldnt beat all those guards thats why he thought impossible. That didn't mean he didn't want to fight him, at least at first, maybe after venny beat the guards he didn't want to, but wither way its not like carnage to sit around in a cell if he thought he could get out is it.


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Sonics do work, they just weaken him a little now but not seperate him from the symbiote, well maybe carnage thought he couldnt beat all those guards thats why he thought impossible. That didn't mean he didn't want to fight him, at least at first, maybe after venny beat the guards he didn't want to, but wither way its not like carnage to sit around in a cell if he thought he could get out is it.


True, but I think the lasers were keeping him in, not sonics.


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Well, he has to be bonded to the symbiote to be Carnage. He doesn't have to cover his face all the time.



Sonics do not work on Carnage anymore, but they do on Venom. Still Brock entered the cell and it didn't hurt him, so I believe Cletus could have turned if he wanted to. Also look at Carnage's face when Venom kills all the guards in seconds. "impossible" he said.


I know the face doesn't have to be covered. Just the body, but in that other pic, the symbiote is just floating around him. It didn't even touch him. You said there are sonics in the cell? Maybe they are used to keep his symbiote in a weakened state so he cant exactly fight back against Venom in the cell.


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I know the face doesn't have to be covered. Just the body, but in that other pic, the symbiote is just floating around him. It didn't even touch him. You said there are sonics in the cell? Maybe they are used to keep his symbiote in a weakened state so he cant exactly fight back against Venom in the cell.


I believe his clothes was the symbiote. And the red things behind were just tendrils.
Guards didn't seperate them, otherwise they'd be keeping the symbiote somewhere else and Cletus would've died.
If there were any sonics in the cell Venom would have been even weaker than Cletus cause Carnage's resistance to sonics is better and Brock entered the cell.
Also the guards said that the last guy who was mopping the floor and got to close to the cell got killed. Another prove that the symbiote was active.


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As it stands Carnage is stronger than Venom. That's the truth & what I'm sticking to.


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As it stands Carnage is stronger than Venom. That's the truth & what I'm sticking to.


Stronger yes better no
/debate


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Perhaps there should be a thread about this debate so that the conversation about the actual tv show can continue?


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Stronger yes better no
/debate


He's stronger and better at everything. The only things Venom has hanging over him is brains and popularity among fans which are two things Carnage barely has.

Also, I agree with Myers. Back to the show before we get more off topic.


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Personally I can't wait to see sandman, since the 60's I don't think Sandy has ever been in a toon, about time people learned about him, well besides the film of course. And I hope they do as good a job with Venom as they did in the 90's toon. I also hope GG won't be a split personality this time and just use the comic version, always preferd the fact Osborn is debatabley a worse foe than the Goblin himself.


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I liked Venom in the 90's toon but I didnt like how he worked for that wizrd guy and alongside Carnage.Really the only thing I like about the 90's toon Venom is how he eventually teams up with Spiderman to defeat Carnage.I hope they do his origin good this time and I hope he doesnt team with Carnage again.Hopefully they keep him around longer too and do the whole anti-hero thing.


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Considering Venom's multiple upgrades and the fact that he's overpowered Carnage in their most recent fights, I'd say Venom has gotten better over time as compared to Carnage staying (and possibly even weakening) over time. Venom is the superior symbiote currently. edit: the previous statement does not take Toxin into account of superiority, it's between Carnage and Venom.


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Stronger yes better no
/debate


Of course Venom is the better character, everyone knows that.


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Considering Venom's multiple upgrades and the fact that he's overpowered Carnage in their most recent fights, I'd say Venom has gotten better over time as compared to Carnage staying (and possibly even weakening) over time. Venom is the superior symbiote currently. edit: the previous statement does not take Toxin into account of superiority, it's between Carnage and Venom.

That's true. Most people forget that Venom got upgraded when he merged with his clone.
And that was AFTER he beat Carnage 1 on 1 four times. It was clear then, but now who's stronger is not even a debate.


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Who do you guys think should get a cameo in the new animated Spider-Man series or fight Spidey? I say the Hulk.


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Who do you guys think should get a cameo in the new animated Spider-Man series or fight Spidey? I say the Hulk.


Only 4 truely come to mind, The Fantastic Four.


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I want to see Spidey fight the Grey Hulk. The Savage Hulk would be too much for him to handle.


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I'm sure you all know about the FF show on cartoon network. I actually want them to cross over into this show. It would be awesome to have a show where the entire marvel universe is combined.

He could even meet up with the Xmen from Xmen evolution.


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since wb held rights to xmen evolution and i think they will be responsible for wolverne and friends new cartoon,that could be possible,but WE ALL KNOW! marvel chonologies never worked,so lets not bring that crap to our cartoons right?

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