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Violent2Dope
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No Naruto character can beat Dante, except maybe Kyubi, and Itachi would not beat Goku, he can destroy planets.


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wow did u not read what i said, of course he can destroy planets, but do u think goku is gonna sit there and destroy a planet hes sitting on, THINK ABOUT BATTLES THOROUGHLY NOT THICK HEADED, little thing called genjutsu go look it up


how often do u see goku go, oh no im bored of fighting this enemy, lets destroy earth?


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Itachi would not beat Goku, he can destroy planets.


If any Naruto character could easily take out Gokou or any of the Z warriors it would be Itachi. Itachi would have them in an illusion before the fight even starts there is no way Itachi shouldn't be able to win most fights he is in simply for the genjutsu he always uses. Gokou doesn't have any abilities that keep him from being tricked by illusions and Itachi's illusions can kill. Of course the jutsu that supposedly burns hotter than the sun Amaterasu (sp?) while Gokou is in an illusion that he's trapped and can't move should work.


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Personally, I'd love to see what would happen if he tried that on a telepath. Like someone like Mr. Sinister or Apocalypse. I bet they'd turn the tsukiyomi back on him in a flash. big grin


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yah, if u actually think about it, dbz characters know nothing of jutsu, if they got trapped in most theyd be screwed, im pretty sure, naruto characters can dodge quite a few attacks from dbz characters, lol dbz characters dont know the difference between shadow clones and ninja,
dbz characters would be screwed


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Okay, Goku destroys planet and ITs to another one. Or, he could fly up and kill Itachi in one punch before he has a chance to move. And don't even try to convince me that Naruto characters are evn a quarter as fast as DBZ characters.


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little thing called genjutsu go look it up
Genjutsu shouldnt work on anyone outside the naruto world as it relies on chakra flow.

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you never know though lol, there energy systems may be different, but they still have one, there could be a possibliy of it still working, and there is still a possibility of other jutsus, either way, alot of naruto characters have a good chance


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Genjutsu shouldnt work on anyone outside the naruto world as it relies on chakra flow.
It would sort of be like DBZ's ki so I don't see why it wouldn't work there or anywhere else.

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Okay, Goku destroys planet and ITs to another one. Or, he could fly up and kill Itachi in one punch before he has a chance to move. And don't even try to convince me that Naruto characters are evn a quarter as fast as DBZ characters.


Except that before Gokou could do anything he'd already be in the Genjutsu. Unless Gokou somehow gets to attack before Itachi knows they are fighting.

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Personally, I'd love to see what would happen if he tried that on a telepath. Like someone like Mr. Sinister or Apocalypse. I bet they'd turn the tsukiyomi back on him in a flash. big grin
big grin But Gokou isn't a telepath so he's screwed with it. I never knew Sinister was a telepath. Nor Apocalypse


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Argh. Genjutsu will not work on anyone who does not have a circulatory chakra system like in Naruto as it relies on disrupting and controlling the chakra flow to ones brain to manipulate the person, it really should not work on anyone who does not use chakra.

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When does it say that it manipulates chakra to work? The person uses chakra to cause illusions but I've never heard it said that you need chakra for it to work.


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Its explained a few times, once by Jirayai to Naruto on a flashback to there training and another time in the manga where Kakashi explains genjutsu. Im sure Kurenai says the same thing during one of the filler episodes.

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So that would mean that all the villagers in Naruto that aren't ninja would be unaffected by genjutsu. Weren't there normal people from the village watching the Chunin exams when they were all put to sleep with a genjutsu?


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Im not sure but I think every single person in the Naruto world has a chakra system however not everyone is capable of performing ninjutsu and not every one has to be a ninja lol.

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Except that before Gokou could do anything he'd already be in the Genjutsu. Unless Gokou somehow gets to attack before Itachi knows they are fighting.
Let me ask you this, how could Itachi even kill Goku? With a kunai? Hell no. I'll bet you Amaterasu will barely hurt him. Oh, and usually in vs. forums when the fight starts they both know eachother is fighting. It's stupid to allow one character to get an attack in before the other one knows they are fighting.


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But then Chakra would be like energy inside them. There is no difference between Chakra and Ki though just different names. They use it to do their attacks and if they get low they can't do those attacks. So if it is only Chakra based why wouldn't it work on anybody seeing as how Chakra is just another name for the energy inside somebody.


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Let me ask you this, how could Itachi even kill Goku? With a kunai? Hell no. I'll bet you Amaterasu will barely hurt him. Oh, and usually in vs. forums when the fight starts they both know eachother is fighting. It's stupid to allow one character to get an attack in before the other one knows they are fighting.


How would he kill him? The genjutsu is real to the mind. Kill him in the mind he'll die. And Gokou isn't going to survive something that burns hotter than the sun. Also Itachi only resorts to using his Sharigan so if they knew they were fighting the first thing Itachi would do was put Gokou in the Sharigan. After that Gokou would be defenseless. If the genjutsu isn't enough to kill him it'll hurt him alot and Itachi has plenty of fire moves to use that would hurt Gokou. Gokou isn't fireproof. If his clan's jutsu of fire doesn't work then there is still Amaterasu that will no doubt kill him.


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besides itachi, everyone else taking on a dbz fighter will die

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But then Chakra would be like energy inside them. There is no difference between Chakra and Ki though just different names. They use it to do their attacks and if they get low they can't do those attacks. So if it is only Chakra based why wouldn't it work on anybody seeing as how Chakra is just another name for the energy inside somebody.
Thats the thing though, there is a difference. Nothing about ki is ever explained in dbz except the fact that they can shoot big blasts using it and power up etc. Genjutsu relies on disrupting the chakra flow to the brain and they are then able to manipulate what that person can see, feel etc. Its all explained a few times in the manga and once in a filler, the one with kurenai and that little girl who paints things that come to life. Genjutsu will not work on people outside the naruto world unless they have a chakra system. Also if you dont understand what a chakra system is its like veins but instead these things carry chakra round a persons body, Neji can see it and hit all tenketsu things to stop the flow of the chakra, the inner gates of kaimen control the amount of chakra that flows round a persons body.

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But then Chakra would be like energy inside them. There is no difference between Chakra and Ki though just different names. They use it to do their attacks and if they get low they can't do those attacks. So if it is only Chakra based why wouldn't it work on anybody seeing as how Chakra is just another name for the energy inside somebody.
Okay le me explain how vs. threads work, it's like they both know they are about to fight and a little bell goes off or sumthin, yeah that works. Goku in this instant would punch him before he could activate the Sharingan or use it and kill him, DBZ characters are a great deal faster. DBZ characters take planet destroying blasts, is Amaterasu a planet destroying blast? Hell no.


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