Fair enough. But we atleast have a slight edge in that we put our faith in Him. Athiests go solely by what they read. So they don't know anymore then a Christian does, because they're reading the same Bible, the same Da Vinci Code, the same programming, everything.
So really the only differance is where as athiests try to studyup to disprove God, Christians study up to stengthen thier faith. If anything, athiests are as spiritual terrorists. They seek only to undermine and destroy. How is that constructive?
Faith isn't something you know, it's something you feel. And no amount of reading The Bible and studying scriptures and the past can help you change that. I know how to make a chicken sandwhich, that doesn't make me a KFC employee.
__________________ The sad truth is most evil is commited by those who never makeup thier minds to be good or evil.
How is that an absolute slight edge ? Some people see it as a delusion...
So do many Thiests. Atheists, like myself and XYZ, also go on logic, science, other religions, and other modes of reasoning as to why we don't beleive in the existance of God.
And then again, it's not God over all that I don't beleive in..I just don't beleive in the Christian-Judeo God, because that God is a violent, bigot hypocrit, like many of his followers tend to be.
Untrue. I used to be Christian. I was Christian for 18 years of my life. I'm Atheist/Agnostic now, Yet I know more about Christianity than many of the Christians on these forums do
Untrue and shows how little you know on the subject.
Most Atheists don't give a sh*t about the concept of God or religion in general. Atheism is simply a disbelief in God. You don't have to rant on about how God doesn't exist to be Atheist.
Christians study up ? Yeah right....most Christians select CERTAIN quotes from the Bible that promote thier own biases and enforce THOSE aspects of Christianity, while ignoring the other aspects.
WTF ?
What planet do you live on ? Are you serious ? This just killed all your credibility.....you have proven your massive ignorance with this quote.
Lord Urizen, I never cared what you thought about me to begin with. My credibility? Who do I look like JFK? I'm just some guy on the net. And so are you. Get over yourself. You're not going to enlighten the masses, you're not going to "discover the truth", and you're ceartainly not going to make friends, atleast not with me popping an attitude like that.
I don't really give a crap what you think. To me, you're just another Godless butthole who wants me to conform to your belief or lack thereoff. Frankly, I think it's great God is hypocritical. I'd rather know God is capable of punishing the wicked and being a huge dick unto mortals then being incapable of justice and retribution. Why would I serve a God who would love Adolph Hitler as much as The Dalai Lama? That doesn't make sense.
But far be it for you to understand that. You continue to live in your little dream world, and I'll continue to live in mine.
__________________ The sad truth is most evil is commited by those who never makeup thier minds to be good or evil.
You will learn one day there's more to Christianity then just Christians. I'm not Christian. I defend Christianity and Jehova because it serves a purpose. I pretty much wasted my time posting my Cthulhu pic as it seems it went completely ignored..
__________________ The sad truth is most evil is commited by those who never makeup thier minds to be good or evil.
1) Send me the link to the pic, I will look at it.
2) Christianity is a beleif system, and nothing more. Beleif Systems can only be manifested through the people who beleive, or the texts/references on which they are based.
3) Christians mean more to me than Christianity, because Christians are PEOPLE while Christianity is a mythology
* you're saying that energy cannot be created nor destroyed... but it does not prove that energy has no source... because it really has...
* generally, Edison is a creator and he is also a creature... i'm talking about the Creator...
* ms.debbiejo, mr.shakyamunison & mr.xyz offered better conversation than you... better stick to the topic... show me that you can refute my "blind" faith...
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Looking at you.
I don't understand what you mean by source. I know what you are getting at, but you are looking outside of yourself for God, and I don't think you will find it.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For you have not recieved the spirit of bondage again to fear; but you have received the Spirit of adoption, where you cry, Abba, Father. Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared wih the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Romans 8:14-18
Okay, first off no one is a child of God until they exected Christ into their heart. Everyone is a creation of God but not a child of God. Second we suffer because Jesus suffered. We suffer to be more like Christ. And the short time on earth cannot compare to the time spent in Heaven...and sadly some shall go to hell. No child of God shall be cast into the fires of hell. Only those who never did.
Also... Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world comes, and has nothing in me. But that the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
John 14:30-31
Three times Jesus calls Satan "the prince of the world". The present world system organized upon the principles of force, greed, selfishness, ambition, and sinful pleasure is his work. In His own time, God's full judgment will come upon Satan and the absolute, undivided sovereignty of God over His whole universe will be restored.
And he that takes not his cross, and follows after me, is not worth of me.
Matthew 10:38
Also for every temptation Satan tempts us with God gives us a way out. Sometimes we choose not to take the exit. It is not God's fault but the fault of man. For God has given a way out of temptation and most of the time it is behind us but most of the time we do not seek a way out of temptation.
And why reward those who are sinful and unclean? God shall not allow sin to enter into his kingdom. God has sent his warning in his word and those who do not heed his warning are blinded by sin. And how dare you compare the Lord my God with Hitler!
Hitler killed because he felt the German race was superior over all other. God punishes not the righteous man but the one who doesn't expect the Son.
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have ever lasting life.
John 3:16
God has given his only Son for us. Those who refuse do not deserve Heaven. No one deserves Heaven in fact but it is by the grace of God that those saved by Christ can be saved from damnation and brought up to salvation.
peejayd u cant ask me for proof. the burden of proof is on you
think about it. think real real real hard. religion is not the answer. never has been.
i can understand that you fear what will happen to you when you die, and you choose a religion to help you. but there is nothing to fear. you cannot die. we are infinite conciousness
religions are there to discourage consciousness from seeing beyond the program because they are focused on one predominant belief or goal. its obvious, you just have to let go of fear.
if you want a book i can email u one. it just shows religion for what it really is.
I was talking to a good friend of mine Sue about this topic:
She's an actual Christian, (over me who just defends them valiantly.) and she says that The Bible doesn't say God created hell, only banished Lucifer and the other fallen angels to it.
So Hell exsisted prior.
__________________ The sad truth is most evil is commited by those who never makeup thier minds to be good or evil.
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Nov 30th, 2006 09:12 PM
and shows how little you know on the subject.
