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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
that post made no sense whatsoever.


It did, but I'll make it more simple for you.

They are all action stars, but that doesn't mean an action star is entitled to any role in an action movie JUST because plot isn't a main factor.

You cited the fact that they're not all good actors, but so what? The Terminator didn't need good acting, neither did Chan's character of Detective Lee in Rush Hour, but Arnold couldn't have played it because it required certain physical ability that is beyond him, the same with Terminator, it required a physical appearance and ability that isn't believable in Chan.

My point being; Vin Diesel isn't necessarily a good choice for Kratos because he's bald and large. He is not agile, he is stiff as a board and he doesn't have a good voice.

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Thank you, Vin Diesel just sucks ass. Hounsou is clearly the better choice.


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I don't know if he is, I don't really care.

My point is more a universal one using the game as an example.

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It did, but I'll make it more simple for you.

They are all action stars, but that doesn't mean an action star is entitled to any role in an action movie JUST because plot isn't a main factor.

You cited the fact that they're not all good actors, but so what? The Terminator didn't need good acting, neither did Chan's character of Detective Lee in Rush Hour, but Arnold couldn't have played it because it required certain physical ability that is beyond him, the same with Terminator, it required a physical appearance and ability that isn't believable in Chan.

My point being; Vin Diesel isn't necessarily a good choice for Kratos because he's bald and large. He is not agile, he is stiff as a board and he doesn't have a good voice.

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I'm not saying a black man can't play the role.

Just so there's no confusion about what I'm about to say.

Vin actually does look something like Kratos and could pull it off. Afterall, astounding acting abilities aren't required as we've all agreed on that.

He's done other action movies, so his "body is as stiff as a board" really doesn't mean anything under these circumstances if it's even true.

Also, his voice is similar to Kratos's voice.

Have you ever even played the game, b/c many of your points just aren't...............they just aren't.........

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I'm not saying a black man can't play the role.

Just so there's no confusion about what I'm about to say.

Vin actually does look something like Kratos and could pull it off. Afterall, astounding acting abilities aren't required as we've all agreed on that.

He's done other action movies, so his "body is as stiff as a board" really doesn't mean anything under these circumstances if it's even true.

Also, his voice is similar to Kratos's voice.

Have you ever even played the game, b/c many of your points just aren't...............they just aren't.........

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....


A) Yes, I've played it.

B) He cannot move convincingly, he is not an agile man, that's my point.

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What about Gerard Butler? what about The Rock?


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Those are some very good choices. They would portray the role well.

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What about Gerard Butler? what about The Rock?



Butler would be a good choice. The Rock I'm not sure about.


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Butler would be a good choice. The Rock I'm not sure about.
yup. the Rock and Gerard woudl ebable to meet the physical part of the role. Gerard is a good actor, and the Rock is passable on a good day.


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The Rock (as much as I like him) would be a horrible choice for the role of Kratos. Gerald Butler would actually be a pretty good choice but he'd kind of look weird with a bald head.


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Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
The Rock (as much as I like him) would be a horrible choice for the role of Kratos. Gerald Butler would actually be a pretty good choice but he'd kind of look weird with a bald head.
explain that about the Rock. why?


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Wait, so...a black guy is not good for the role, because Kratos is white, but a Samoan with a dark skin tone is ok...despite him not being white?

I don't follow your logic RJ. What defines "Ok to play Kratos!" to you?

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i hate to break up the party about the rock, but... Karl Urban?

Hes got the look, he can act, he might need to buff up a bit, but still, i really think he could do it, If it wasn't CGI.

Gerald Butler is a good actor, but i can't see him as Kratos.


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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Wait, so...a black guy is not good for the role, because Kratos is white, but a Samoan with a dark skin tone is ok...despite him not being white?

I don't follow your logic RJ. What defines "Ok to play Kratos!" to you?

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Djimon has a dark complexion. Kratos does not have a dark complexion. The Rock looks similar to Kratos. Djimon does not.

clear enough?


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he would.
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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Djimon has a dark complexion. Kratos does not have a dark complexion. The Rock looks similar to Kratos. Djimon does not.

clear enough?


The Rock has a dark complexion, he's certainly not "white", which was your main reason for Hounsou not playing Kratos.

So, please explain how someone still not being white is ok for you.

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The Rock has a dark complexion, he's certainly not "white", which was your main reason for Hounsou not playing Kratos.

So, please explain how someone still not being white is ok for you.

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you gonna sit there and tell me that Djimon looks more like Kratos than the Rock does?

the Rock LOOKS like Kratos, end of story. the fact that he is Samoan is a technicality.


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you gonna sit there and tell me that Djimon looks more like Kratos than the Rock does?

the Rock LOOKS like Kratos, end of story. the fact that he is Samoan is a technicality.


Stop dancing around the issue.

You said, I have the PMs, that someone who is not white should NOT play a white character, no matter what. You said that race and ethnicity should be adhered to.

For that reason you said Hounsou couldn't play Kratos, because he was black, and Kratos is white. You specifically referenced his skin colour.

The Rock is not white, I don't know if you noticed that.

So either you lied to me in the PMs about ethnicity and skin colour being important, or you didn't give me the full story.

You clearly do not feel skin tone or ethnicity are important if you say "The Rock would be awesome.", but previously said "Kratos is white, so Djimon can't play him cos he's black.".

Kratos = White.
Djimon = Black.
The Rock = Dark skin, not white.

So if you are still standing by "Ethnicity must be adhered to.", The Rock isn't eligible, by YOUR standards.

What's the deal? I'm genuinely curious, because your story isn't adding up. If you think Hounsou is too dark skinned, say so, nobody's gonna call you a racist or anything. At least I'm not.

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Honestly, the Rock looks nothing like Kratos. I'm inclined to believe that you are just trolling.


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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Stop dancing around the issue.

You said, I have the PMs, that someone who is not white should NOT play a white character, no matter what. You said that race and ethnicity should be adhered to.

For that reason you said Hounsou couldn't play Kratos, because he was black, and Kratos is white. You specifically referenced his skin colour.

The Rock is not white, I don't know if you noticed that.

So either you lied to me in the PMs about ethnicity and skin colour being important, or you didn't give me the full story.

You clearly do not feel skin tone or ethnicity are important if you say "The Rock would be awesome.", but previously said "Kratos is white, so Djimon can't play him cos he's black.".

Kratos = White.
Djimon = Black.
The Rock = Dark skin, not white.

So if you are still standing my "Ethnicity must be adhered to.", The Rock isn't eligible, by YOUR standards.

What's the deal?

-AC


I believe that he's trolling seeing as the Rock is black. Samoan is considered to be African American, the Rock even said so himself. And the Rock would not look right in this role because he doesn't look a thing like Kratos. Hounsou looks much more like Kratos.


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