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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
the point of the question is the topic at hand. you are saying what you might do if things went a certain way. I am saying that it has never happened to you and that you dont know how you will react until it does.

You are a true child, B. like a girl with a skinned knee. hurl the insults all you want, go ahead, throw some more at me if it pleases you, girlie. laughing
T-the topic of the thread is whether love and sex can be separated. It can be. Now shut up.I get bored of having to call you an idiot. Say something sensible if you must speak at all.
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It wasnt a question because it didnt have a question mark after it, but it was a question in the sense that he wanted a response.



Yes you did but not to that particular statement.



Thats all you needed to say.




Fine.




Get a grip.
I said it twice before. Jesus Christ. Why do I have to repeat everything three times for you morons (Rogue Jedi, Alfheim) to get it?


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T-the topic of the thread is whether love and sex can be separated. It can be. Now shut up.I get bored of having to call you an idiot. Say something sensible if you must speak at all.
blah blah idiot...blah blah blah moron...blah blah blah I know it all.....

Thats all I see in your posts. Do you have a dirty diaper?


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I said it twice before. Jesus Christ. Why do I have to repeat everything three times for you morons (Rogue Jedi, Alfheim) to get it?



...and what you admited that the statement was probably aimed at you.....right.....but you didnt realsie it. Isnt that what you said?


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Yes, sex may be all about shallow desire, without deeper attachment.

You may love someone deeply without having sex with him/her.


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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
blah blah idiot...blah blah blah moron...blah blah blah I know it all.....

Thats all I see in your posts. Do you have a dirty diaper?
You see, that is what I have been saying. You are unable to comprehend my posts. That is why it is so frustrating to talk to you.


You idiot!


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You see, that is what I have been saying. You are unable to comprehend my posts. That is why it is so frustrating to talk to you.


You idiot!
easily baited, you are.


settle down, I get where you are coming from, just let it go.


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easily baited, you are.


settle down, I get where you are coming from, just let it go.
No you don't get it.


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No you don't get it.
yes, as a matter of fact I do.


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yes, as a matter of fact I do.



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Unless it is because people really are saying the only difference between those two examples and friends who aren't having sex is, once again, the fact they are "sexually exclusive", just while not having sex.


Precisely.




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Are you prepared to say there is more to a romantic relationship then sexual exclusivity? I can only imagine the answer being yes. And if that is the case would those features be present even in an open ended relationship?


That is the question, is it not?




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If it is the case it is no longer just friends with benifits because the feelings within it no longer match the title.


You are missing the point. Friends who have a sexual arrangement, i.e. friends with benefits, may be more comfortable defining this arrangement in the context of a relationship. By your reasoning, i.e. that relationships should be defined subjectively, this arrangement would qualify as a relationship, because the parties involved define it as such, even though you acknowledged in your previous post that it is merely a sexual arrangement. Can I call a shovel an ice-cream machine or not?




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People who say such things are wrong in my opinion. And that is the danger I feel of applying ones own relationship values to another, "different relationship". Just because we couldn't reconcile love with an agreement that essentially grants sex outside of a relationship doesn't mean others can't because it seems they can and do.


Whether they can “reconcile love with an agreement that essentially grants sex outside of a relationship” is not in question. What is in question is what those relationships would qualify as.




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If two men or women love each other then they are in love and that is their relationship. If two people are in love but have very liberal ideas about sexual commitments then they are in love and that is there relationship. In both cases while the execution might be different the intent and the way the people actually in the relationship feel doesn't differ from a sexually exclusive, heterosexual relationship where the people feel they are in love.


Another False Analogy; in the case of a man and a woman, two men, or two women, the execution is the same, i.e. sexual exclusivity with a single partner. It is in the case of open-relationships alone that the execution is different.

If a friend and I have romantic feelings for one another but do not pursue them, then by your reasoning, because the way we feel “doesn't differ from a sexually exclusive . . . relationship where the people feel they are in love,” then we are in a relationship, even though this is not the case. Clearly, our relationship is not defined by our feelings for one another, but how we choose to act in accordance with those feelings.


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yea it can be seprate. to be honest i think the whole shit of using sex as ( making love) when your married is when you decide to have kid's.


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No. Anyone who says different is too insecure and childish to just stick it out with one person.

Period.

Edit: To clarify, I mean no person can say they are in love with someone but then go around having sex with other people.


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No. Anyone who says different is too insecure and childish to just stick it out with one person.

Period.

What a retard. You're just saying that to get a rise out of people.


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What a retard. You're just saying that to get a rise out of people.


Elaborate?


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No. Anyone who says different is too insecure and childish to just stick it out with one person.

Period.

Edit: To clarify, I mean no person can say they are in love with someone but then go around having sex with other people.


Yeah but I think there would be some exceptions like swingers and such.


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Clearly, our relationship is not defined by our feelings for one another, but how we choose to act in accordance with those feelings.

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Yeah but I think there would be some exceptions like swingers and such.


I don't think people who are swingers love each other. That's just me though


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I don't think people who are swingers love each other. That's just me though


Well I can see why you say that but im just saying that there must be some exceptions. I do think though that must guys who are into swinging and say they love their partner are just using it as an excuse for them to have sex with two women or whatever but im sure there must be some exceptions.


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Well to really find the exception we have to define love but I'm not sure I want to go there.


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