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marwash22
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I nom, Vicky (Small Wonder) for elite-Street.

-She can lift a 200 pound man clear above her head with one hand by grabbing him by one of his ankles. She dented a car when it backed into her (she suffered no damage) and has some degree of Super speed. She doesn't need to eat or sleep due to being an android. She learns things at an accelerated level and is highly intellegent. The only reason I'm not nominating her for low-Meta is because, despite her intellegence and physical attributes, she could easily be outsmarted or taken advantage. This is due to her AI making it so that she interprets commands in their most literal definition.

I nom, Kyle Tregar and Jessie (Kyle XY) for mid-Meta.

- The following applies to both people.

They have incalculable intelligence due to being able to not only speed read, but comprehend and retain an entire book in seconds.

They are naturally adept at using computers to the point were they have full (though, not truly explored) control over electrical systems and various machines. Able to hack into computers with their minds. Kyle creates a working hover board in less than 2 days.

They can levitate by manipulating their bodies polarity to the extent of walking/running across bodies of water.

They have superhuman strength, speed and reflexes. They can also mimic physical movements and retain the skill permanently... as demonstrated when Kyle watched a karate movie and immediately displays martial arts skills. He also watches a basketball game and perfectly mimics Michael Jordan's skills.

Their brains are basically super-computers, able to calculate difficult equations in a matter of seconds and can recall detailed events via hologram-type memory. Kyle was also able to calculate the exact number of gumballs in a machine after looking at it for less than 10 seconds.

Their senses are far beyond the level of Wolverine and even border on those of Superman (but to a lesser degree). Kyle can hold an object and calculate it's weight down to milligrams. They can see in complete darkness. They can see dried blood as if a black light was on, they can also see heat.

Outwrd projection and manipulation of all things electrical. Kyle can power a lightbulb just by touching it. ]

Telekinesis.. which is a byproduct of their polarity control.

They can detect when somone lies or feels any kind of emotion, baically, they are empathic. They also possess a degree of
telepathy.

They can heal themselves and others; to the extent of curing cancer... though the cancer bit is theorized and never truly revealed to be fact. However, Kyle holds a girl with Cancer, the lights flicker and his nose bleeds (all signs that he is using his power) and the next day the girl reveals that her cancer is gone.


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Hellspawn28
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Originally posted by carver9
Thats what I am saying, I know how powerful they are and honestly, I think they should either be mid to high herald but some people are seeing different.

No Marvel or DC character (in the high herald tier) take beatings like bleach characters does and still walk around without a limp.


How can anyone in Bleach be High Herald if they can deastroy planets? To be at High Heralds then you have casual Planet busting powers the last time I check.

I vote for Crocodile and Sora at High Meta. And I vote for Dante (DMC - Sparda Form) for Elite Meta as well.

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Originally posted by carver9
I didnt address your post because I have been arguing with you about the same things for the past two to three years and I am just tired of it.

You can read up on a character and still dislike them. You dont like DBZ characters and its pretty obvious to see.

You can also not respond to my post because again, I am tired of debating with you about the same things.
1. I can see why you would be tired of losing the same debate for so long, but to continue claiming things I and others have disproved is in bad taste.

2. No, I'm just alot less biased than you. Look up any "LIST YO FAVORITE ANIMU CHARACTERZ" list I have posted on, Vegeta will almost always be 1st, and Freeza also often makes the list.

3. That makes two of us, difference being I am right.

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LOL, again, show me spiderman being knocked through 70 feet of rock. You will never find it. Show me Spiderman punching like DBZ characters. Hell, show me Spiderman feats of him being>Goku as a child. Show me Spiderman with 10 ton strength throwing people through buildings like Goku as a child did to king picollo.

Your comment about Doomsday again helped my case. You brought up someone being damaged by an object but the person in DBZ that was damaged was far weaker than the person that did the damage so I showed you the same thing happening to Supes.

I will be waiting for those scans.
1. Carver, stop strawmanning me. You're a bad enough debater without resorting to that tactic. I said Spiderman can probably survive being sent that far through rock, because he has taken more, a building destroying explosion from point-blank being one thing. Nowhere did I say that Spiderman is as strong as a DBZ character.

2. What are you talking about? He was talking about Recoome NOT being damaged by being sent through rock, which Superman was since it was Doomsday who hit him.

3. Lol. You have NEVER proved any of your claims of DBZ characters being FTL short of "I think they are," nor of DBZers being anything more than planet busters, yet you have the audacity to ask ME for scans? Lol no.

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LOL... NUT... do you not understand that you are helping my argument. Broly destroyed a Galaxy and he is listed as a high herald. The only reason he isnt about that is because he isnt versatile enough (which is what people are saying).

So you bringing up Hulk (which I have already done) helped my argument.

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Broly is so inconsistent to even include him is ridiculous. He destroyed a galaxy apparently, yet his blast was overpowered by three Kamehamehas that did not even destroy the sun? Not that Broly counts for DBZ anyway, being, you know, not canon.

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Originally posted by carver9
I'm not just talking about DBZ characters, I'm talking about NUMEROUS of anime characters.

I have proven that even frieza is above high herald, people just dont want to accept it because if Tien is put above high herald that would make him > Superman and Thor and that alone would cause a riot on the forum.

I'm already satified though, One Dumb who is an expert about Thor stated that Frieza is >>>> Thor so all in all that was enough for me because if he thinks that about Thor and Thor is one of the most powerful high herald then that mean that he also think Frieza could stomp any of them (which he could) and again, One Dumb is a Thor fanatic. With that said, that would mean that anybody after the frieza saga that is more powerful than frieza in his mind is at an insane level.
1. Sure you are.

2. Oh you have? Because of far less than lightspeed, being torn to pieces by indirect damage from a planet's destruction, and strength that makes him look like a quadruple amputee four year old girl? Silver Surfer would absolutely tool Freeza or any DBZ character, as would Thor and Superman.

3. Yeah... Appeal to authority fallacy, relying on a supposed expert's views in order to compensate for your lack of debating ability. One Dumb clearly knows not much about how powerful DBZ REALLY is if he believes that.

Here are the facts.

Kid Buu's blast which could only destroy a planet was UNABLE TO BE STOPPED by Goku and Vegeta, despite Cell's boasts of solar system busting, and admitted it would kill them. So this means though they can bust planets, a powerful enough planet buster is more than they can handle, and they can be killed by them. The difference between destroying a planet and a solar system is huge, and DBZ characters have not proven to be close to bridging that gap.

As for speed, you have yet to prove they are faster than a bunch of machs, you cannot prove they are even 1% of lightspeed, in movement or reflexes.

So yeah, nowhere near as strong as you think.


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I nom Hao Asakura from Shaman King for Transcendent. Hao can suck souls out of anyone in the physical world, and was able to create a supernova that powerful enought to out-shines the whole galaxy.

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Originally posted by Hellspawn28
How can anyone in Bleach be High Herald if they can deastroy planets? To be at High Heralds then you have casual Planet busting powers the last time I check.

I vote for Crocodile and Sora at High Meta. And I vote for Dante (DMC - Sparda Form) for Elite Meta as well.


Well help me out then and show me Thor or Superman busting a planet.


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Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Sure you are.

2. Oh you have? Because of far less than lightspeed, being torn to pieces by indirect damage from a planet's destruction, and strength that makes him look like a quadruple amputee four year old girl? Silver Surfer would absolutely tool Freeza or any DBZ character, as would Thor and Superman.

3. Yeah... Appeal to authority fallacy, relying on a supposed expert's views in order to compensate for your lack of debating ability. One Dumb clearly knows not much about how powerful DBZ REALLY is if he believes that.

Here are the facts.

Kid Buu's blast which could only destroy a planet was UNABLE TO BE STOPPED by Goku and Vegeta, despite Cell's boasts of solar system busting, and admitted it would kill them. So this means though they can bust planets, a powerful enough planet buster is more than they can handle, and they can be killed by them. The difference between destroying a planet and a solar system is huge, and DBZ characters have not proven to be close to bridging that gap.

As for speed, you have yet to prove they are faster than a bunch of machs, you cannot prove they are even 1% of lightspeed, in movement or reflexes.

So yeah, nowhere near as strong as you think.


Again Nemebro, STOP RESPONDING TO MY POST. I dont care what you think, I am tired of debating against you because you resort to name calling and you are VERY biased. If you feel as if you are right then leave it at that, I am not arguing with you or against you because this post alone really didnt make sense, I see so many errors that it is ridiculous.

If you want to talk to me about this, PM me so that me and you will not have to go on a arguing trail and spam this thread.

Thanks.


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I nominate Richter Belmont (from Castlevania: Symphony of the Night; he is the greatest, most powerful Belmont ever) for a mid tier "Iron Man" ranking for the following reasons:

1) He has superhuman reflexes and strength; can easily keep up with and both hit and evade attacks from Dracula himself and Alucard...has also proven himself capable of knocking around Alucard.


2) He has several very powerful AoE attacks that do great damage to beings that are evil and/or supernatural such as (the 1st can be used by Richter at any time; the others can only be used when he has invoked his "Unbridled Wrath"):

2a) Holy Cross: any enemies in the area of effect are assaulted with a barrage of Holy Cross's that damage his enemies on contact. This assault cumulates with a burst of pure white light that both damages and temporarily blinds its victims; this attack has a 30 foot range and a 30 second duration.

2b) Hydro Storm: Richter makes in rain Holy Water in a small area around his person for a short duration; 30 foot range, 30 second duration.

2c) Lighting Blast: Richter fires branches of magical lighting from his body in all directions with a very small area of effect; no more than about a foot or two from his body.

2d) Magical Axes: Richter summons a dozen magical battle axes which expand and fly out from his body...damaging all in the area of effect; which is perhaps within 30 feet of him...before they vanish.


3) Weapons: Richter carries a magical chain whip that can damage supernatural characters it comes into contact with. He can summon magical boomerangs, daggers, throwing axes, and vials of Holy Water to his hand simply by willing it. He also carries a bible on his person that can (but only when he is in "Unbridled Wrath" mode) be used to fire a powerful, concentrated, beam of holy energy at his target.


4) Unbridled Wrath: When hard pressed in combat, Richter can invoke his Unbridled Wrath. When in this amped up state, he begins to glow with a holy white aura...his chain whip becomes covered in, cleansing, magical fire, and he gains access to his most powerful abilities.


Add all of that up and I think he is fully deserving of a mid tier Iron Man ranking...what says the hive mind here? smile


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Originally posted by carver9
Again Nemebro, STOP RESPONDING TO MY POST. I dont care what you think, I am tired of debating against you because you resort to name calling and you are VERY biased. If you feel as if you are right then leave it at that, I am not arguing with you or against you because this post alone really didnt make sense, I see so many errors that it is ridiculous.

If you want to talk to me about this, PM me so that me and you will not have to go on a arguing trail and spam this thread.

Thanks.
Then do not post in this thread, because I will not sit by and let DBZ characters be put in a tier higher than they belong.

You say you see errors, but you did not argue against them. It is in bad taste to simply say someone's post is flaawed without reasoning why.


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wasnt piccolos power level like 350 when he destroyed the moon?


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Roughly.

The difference between destroying a moon or a planet is higher than you may think.


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Roughly.

The difference between destroying a moon or a planet is higher than you may think.
Not nearly enough for this feat to make sense >_>

Unless the difference between the beginning of the series and the Buu saga is a lot less than we've been led to believe, due mostly to extremely flashy power ups. Everything else does kinda look th same all the way through. O.o


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Just to re-iterate:

Debating the merits of character placements is 100% legal and supported in this thread. It's not off topic or a derailment of the thread. There needs to be scrutiny.

As stated before, just keep it clean and don't attack eachother directly.

Also, please don't take the scrutiny of a character personally even if you have a vested interest as a fan.

It's only fiction, no need for harboring true animosity.


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Not nearly enough for this feat to make sense >_>

Unless the difference between the beginning of the series and the Buu saga is a lot less than we've been led to believe, due mostly to extremely flashy power ups. Everything else does kinda look th same all the way through. O.o
The rough difference between destroying Earth and the moon is 3,800 times, from what I hear.

So that would mean the first character that could destroy Earth is power levels even scaled linearly (They do not really scale at all) would be Freeza in his second form, if Piccolo really had a PL of 350. Which he may not have, I am not really sure when during that year long period Gohan transformed, forgot.


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Wei Phoenix
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I'll post the additions a little later today. If I'm correct is the only one Phantom Limb for mid meta three votes?


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Wei Phoenix
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The Kids Next Door (Numbuh 1-5) for Elite Street.


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The Kids Next Door (Numbuh 1-5) for Elite Street.
please explain.

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please explain.


Well given their tech, and individual skills I find them to be appropriately in that category if not high street.

They have created bases on the moon and time machines and tanks and all kinds of all terrain vehicles. I'll look up some videos for feats and all since I can't fully recall everything they have done.

Nigel himself has traded hands with Chad (274) who was the organization's best agent before Nigel surpassed him. Nigel and maintains an impressive amount of agility even while an adult.

Here are a few of his feats


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Phantom Limb had about three or four votes for Low Meta I thought.


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marwash22
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I nom, Sylar (from 'Heroes') for elite-Meta.

-ability to know how anything works, this comes with the ability to replicate the powers of anyone he comes across.

basically, he's a bad mofo.
if you're not familiar, here's his wiki - http://heroeswiki.com/Sylar


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