Oh didn't you know things like a sun is greater than galaxy destroying energy and the earth is greater than solar system destroying energy?
And the villians in DBZ always tell the truth So even when they're wrong about their claims they're still telling the truth, always.
[/sarcasm] If you respond to me like I literally meant what I said then you must not have seen this when you quoted me.
Archimonde has with physical force snapped the neck of a titanic figure, as such was the finish in the battle against Malorne. He withstood a horned headbutt brutal enough to quake an entire landscape and send tens of thousands of soldiers of their feet with something as little as a dent in his skin as result.
When Archimonde engaged a blue dragon in combat, it lasted for as long as it took Archimonde to lift his hand. With a simple gesture did Archimonde not only slay, but flay the dragon. Skin it by ripping each of its scales from its body and crush its body as a conclusion.
The one time Archimonde was overwhelmed in combat, he retreated with a simple thought, vanishing into thin air in a burst of flames. It was revealed that he teleported to his base of command, a location hours of marching away.
When Archimonde raze Dalaran, he is actually doing more than simply destroying the city. He is bypassing a magical barrier set up by the mages of the Kirin Tor and Medivh himself, a powerful prophet whom we have record of having blocked the spirit of Sargeras himself with a simple ward.
But this isn't giving Archimonde justice. The greatest height Archimonde has taken, is that of a mountain. It was never specified if it was a large mountain or a small one, but he was the size of a mountain. He has for a brief period of time endured the combined power of Nature itself, a power potent enough to cut Sargeras.
The spell used by Archimonde in the video here is actually known as a "Paramount". Archimonde has mastered this technique as one of the most prominent members of the Eredar community. A previous notable time where a Paramount spell has been used, was the shattering of Draenor. To WoW players, this is known as Outlands- a planet destroyed by the prominent Ner'Zhul, an act that condemned the inhabitants of Draenor to live on floating remnants of a planet. Mere islands in space.
In addition to him razing Dalaran, Archimonde also razed an elven city with a single gesture merely because it was in the way of his onrush up Mount Hyjal.
Hm, looking back to the first page, Solusandra (from Crossgen) is currently listed as Trans. That is too low for her. She created the First, herald levelers (or in the weakest cases, maybe high meta, but probably hundreds of herald levelers minimum, quite a few of whom were mid-herald and a couple highs, and thousands of First of any level in total), the leader of those who was in turn Trans, and was personally capable of wading through dozens and dozens of them casually even in a significantly reduced state.
The Transitioned in Crossgen, that is Solusandra, Danik, Charon, and Appolyon (who's also listed wrongly as Trans), were really well into the Skyfather level, and possibly even above that. Herald levelers were far below them. Individual avatars of the Transition were Trans level.
I actually highlighted where you missed my point to help you out, YET YOU CONTINUE TO MISS IT.
What "plot" prevented the Kamehamehas from going through the sun all the way? That would not have destroyed the sun, yet the blasts evaporated within it.
Actually, if Broly IS a galaxy buster, according to feats he is far and away the most powerful DBZ character ever. Good thing he is not canon.
Actually no one in the manga ever busting a galaxy is the reason why we should not assume Goku can bust a galaxy. Because you know, that is logical.
Of course Goku could bust a planet. If I had to put out an estimate for how large a planet he could bust, I would say at least a solid, Jupiter sized planet. But not even a solar system could he destroy.
Janemba a universal threat?
I really gotta ask man, where was this actually shown? Sure, he took over the afterlife, but that does not equate to him being a universal threat.
Though Janemba and Broly have something in common. They're not canon, and as such should not be used to support canon DBZ characters.
Also I think I should point out that Outland was created by Nerzhul opening too many portals and a Cowboy-Bebop-esque cataclysm that followed suit. I don't recall any mention of a "Paramount" spell causing the destruction.
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I'm pretty sure he has super-strength (Class 1 at least, seeing as he easily judo tossed a guy who weighed 300 lbs, sending the guy fifty feet away), can jump a vertical distance of around 150 feet, is a bullet-timer, and fell from space down to Earth completely unharmed (though his suit did protect him from the heat at reentry).
Add the fact that his sword can cut through virtually anything and there's no question he's above Elite Street.
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Able to jump hundreds of feet with 10+ ton boulders, could lift himself from under a 600 ton sumo, can effortlessly block gatling gun fire with one hand on his sword, can kill a group of mercs before some water could hit the floor while falling from only 3 feet, and even survived atmospheric re-entry.
Then there is his sword.
Jack is at least Mid Meta IMO, actually, considering that he fights Aku, probably more like High.
I nominate Wargreymon for High Meta since he was lifted a skyscraper and kicked it like a football. And was able to push back Venom Myotismon into several city blocks.
I know I'm not the smartest in the bunch, but was the double mentioning I was wrong when Omega Vision pointed out my mistakes really necessary, or were you guys just being facetious?
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Jul 16th, 2010 03:42 PM
Good thing he is not canon.
I think I need to look back on the list and figure out just what constitutes which tier.
