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Sol Valentine
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Kenny dosen't need a badass attitude. He'll take the Akatsuki by himself if he had to.


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naruto cut a giant ciff face which stretched towards both horizons, utterly while trying out the unharnessed power of his wind element for the first time, diadara created a blast which{minus thedestructive area around it} was as large as a village and that was just his smallest c-3 explosion. you cant substantiate he went the distance you claim and cant substantiate that it was infact in a measureable timeframe. on the other hand zabuza/lee/sasuke etc have much better speed feats than that. look at the aizen vs itachi thread. and those are pre shippuden feats. the akatsuki have taken chakra attacks from MUCH larger and MUCH more powerful bijuu without breakin a sweat. and defeated and trapped them with reletive ease. yondaime kazekage had many times more/larger and more powerful iron sand blands tipped with poison which need not even do damage to kill you and sakura avoided all while being surrounded by a mesh of them. and lets not forget, naruto can create THOUSANDS of clone with his weaker jutsus and that can more than counyter anything the full brunt of byakuya's bankai can dish out.

just a word of advice, stop personally attacking people with phrases like pathetic and whatnt which are unwarranted as i didnt attack you. plus it does nuthing good for your dredibility to use offence for no reaosn. if you cant provide scans than go look at the page in question. youll see that mu argument about being unable to compare speeds still holds. there is no reference point in the manga to compare such things. akuki found one with the whole faster than the blink of an eye[which we DO have a time frame for] thing but the argument was undermined by going from one assumption to another.
1. The Naruto thing with his Wind Rasengan is because of the massive chakra he had in the attack(cause you know, he has alot of it), whereas Kenny cutting a building in half is just a normal swipe of his sword, Kenny's Reitsu at full power spiraled up in the sky in a DBZ-like fashion.

2. Deidara's blast may have been impressive, but you also need to remember that's pretty much the only thing he has to his name, his bombs. He's not very fast compared to other members, not as strong, or as skilled in Taijutsu. In melee he would be crushed by anyone in SS team.

3. Zabuza, Sasuke, and Rock Lee's speed feats better than Ichigo easily dodging like 1,000 of Byakuya's petals simultaneously? My ass. Shunsui instantly went there(along with Ukitake) in one leap(the miles thing was just an estimate, tho it was still a great distance). For the scan, someone in this thread or the Itachi/Aizen thread posted it.

4. That's true and impressive, tho the Menos Gillian are bigger than any Biju, and those things are fodder for even people lower than the rank and power of a Lieutenant. Size is not everything, Deidara kinda cheated to capture Gaara(not really cheated, but he relied on uderhanded tricks), the Nekomata was just a big fire breathing cat,and Hidan cannot die and Kakuzu is hard as hell to kill as well and make an excellent fighting team,Sanbi is f*ckin retarded and couldn't use it's power right, so it was easy to catch, and as for Four Tails, Kisame apparently had some trouble fighting him due to it's ability to do many Chakra Fusions in battle. Not as impressive as you made it sound.

5. I can't remember about this attack Sakura dodged, could you post a scan?

6. Naruto's clone technique is a double edged sword, they take one hit to kill and are weaker than a full powered Naruto. Byakuya's Bankai could easily take it out.

7. I admit I jumped the gun when I insulted you and I apologize.


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1. The Naruto thing with his Wind Rasengan is because of the massive chakra he had in the attack(cause you know, he has alot of it), whereas Kenny cutting a building in half is just a normal swipe of his sword, Kenny's Reitsu at full power spiraled up in the sky in a DBZ-like fashion.


that wasnt the wind raasengan. it was JUST wind element that he used with his kage bunshin to destroy the rock face. and kenny cutting the building was a high end strike. the very fact that its quoted is testament to that{btw kenny hasnt shown the true extent of his power yet. he doesnt even know his zanpakuto's name}.
and again we were comparing power levels and naruto feats currently are greater than bleach ones.

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2. Deidara's blast may have been impressive, but you also need to remember that's pretty much the only thing he has to his name, his bombs. He's not very fast compared to other members, not as strong, or as skilled in Taijutsu. In melee he would be crushed by anyone in SS team.


not really. he has his sand clones. body flicker, clone bomb, c-4 air dispersed charges and flight etc based on his jutsu. anyway, if you compare it to bleach characters, most are also highly limited because of their zampakuto's characteristic. they only have the specific zanpakuto type{normally around which their entire battle stratey is based} and the occasional kido and flash step. only very few visored/arrancnar have added {and even then specific} powers like cero.

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3. Zabuza, Sasuke, and Rock Lee's speed feats better than Ichigo easily dodging like 1,000 of Byakuya's petals simultaneously? My ass. Shunsui instantly went there(along with Ukitake) in one leap(the miles thing was just an estimate, tho it was still a great distance). For the scan, someone in this thread or the Itachi/Aizen thread posted it.


you should undertstand that the feat in question your mentioning was more an AGILITY/REFLEX feat than it was a SPEED feat. the daggers were not dispersed over a phenomenal area. on the other hand rock lee was moving the ENTIRE length of the chunin stadium to deliver each hit to mid air gara, and hundreds of end to end stadium hits in the same time period are MUCH faster than deflecting hundreds of daggers which are closely spaced. no1 is saying it wasnt an awesome feat, its ust that naruto has greater if you strictly look at the criteri or stat your looking at as opposed to personal liking for feats.

also, one LEAP has no time period. and as ive explained before, you have sasuke flying away for miles instantaneously to avoid diedara's attacks etc plus zabuza crossing the lengths to come n stand on his thrown sword in the blink of an eye. etc etc etc

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4. That's true and impressive, tho the Menos Gillian are bigger than any Biju, and those things are fodder for even people lower than the rank and power of a Lieutenant. Size is not everything, Deidara kinda cheated to capture Gaara(not really cheated, but he relied on uderhanded tricks), the Nekomata was just a big fire breathing cat,and Hidan cannot die and Kakuzu is hard as hell to kill as well and make an excellent fighting team,Sanbi is f*ckin retarded and couldn't use it's power right, so it was easy to catch, and as for Four Tails, Kisame apparently had some trouble fighting him due to it's ability to do many Chakra Fusions in battle. Not as impressive as you made it sound.


i doubt it, thy are big certainly, but not big enough to dwarf mountains. plus the bijuu are MUCH stronger. diedara was PLAYING with gaara. if he exerted himself at any level close to what he did against sasuke, the whole sand would be nuthing more than well......... SAND/dust in seconds. he had a hard time keeping the jinchuuriko ALIVE.

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5. I can't remember about this attack Sakura dodged, could you post a scan?


unfortunately right now, i have another limitation, its called screwed up DIALUP. the page is where sasori uses the doll of yondaime hokage who creates literally a matrix of thousands of angular spikes tipped with poison using his iron sand kekai genkai.

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6. Naruto's clone technique is a double edged sword, they take one hit to kill and are weaker than a full powered Naruto. Byakuya's Bankai could easily take it out.

true, but it WUD take each blade tens of tries to kill all naruto clones. and that is NOT assuming each clone counterattacks. meanwhile naruto can attack byakuya who wudnt be able to control his bankai and has no offence other than kidou{hard to do while in bankai. concentration n all} or running away with flash step{which admittedly non kyuubi NARUTO can counter as he doesnt really know body flicker}

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7. I admit I jumped the gun when I insulted you and I apologize.


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I hate you two!!! how could you make me read all that?!

i can't be bother to say anything, other than i'm offended at how much the Bijuu's are downplayed sad

Memos maybe bigger than Bijuu's but there no way i can believe they are even close in srength erm

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I'm not too good at math here and I'm not evne going to attempt a bunch of bizzare calculations. But I remeber in the fight with Haku Sasuke kicked a puddle of water about a foot in the air and they had a bit of a mini fight before the water landed. When I get home I'll take a look at the clip but at their slowest speeds they were all including naruto able to perform several actions in that span of time. Akatsuki is magnitudes past that speed already. Honeslty Ichigo should have been in this to make this fight swing more in SS facor. Though after reading further I think there is a possiblity that Aizen could take on two Akatsuki members on his own.


Also I'm sorry but Bleach has good speed fetas but pure destructive feats do belong to Naruto characters.

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Originally posted by Remindme
I hate you two!!! how could you make me read all that?!

i can't be bother to say anything, other than i'm offended at how much the Bijuu's are downplayed sad

Memos maybe bigger than Bijuu's but there no way i can believe they are even close in srength erm

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http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=57918


I hear you Dog-face's Bankai is just a big suit of armor without any real offesnive abilties and he barely made a dent in the ground. The two taild Cat would have incinerated the Soul Soceity (city not chars).

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yeah, until the powerful captains destroyed it.


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never gonna happen. bleachers are hyped too much on kmc.

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Ahem, yes it would.

Damn, this thread still lives.


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never gonna happen. bleachers are hyped too much on kmc.

I went over to NarutoFan, and they agree Bleach power levels are much higher than Naruto as well.


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Even NarutoFan said that?


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narutofan said that or some BLEACHFAN on narutfan forums said that????

either way, personally i think naruto is, considering the feats.

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Bleachfan on narutofan is bad chemistry.

Go have a look at it if you don't believe Akuki.


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yes but WHERE? i mean narutfan doesnt have an official power comparison page. just endless forum threads and its surely some topic where people discuss etc. people ave preseferences and bleach and naruto are two of the most widely read manga and many people like em both. i highly doubt its anything more than a comparison thread like this one.

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I see.


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yes but WHERE? i mean narutfan doesnt have an official power comparison page. just endless forum threads and its surely some topic where people discuss etc. people ave preseferences and bleach and naruto are two of the most widely read manga and many people like em both. i highly doubt its anything more than a comparison thread like this one.

I was stating that based on the fact that in all of the Bleach character vs. Naruto character threads in the Outskirts Battle Dome, the general consensus is generally that Top tier bleach characters>>>>>Top tier naruto characters. There's a pretty long thread there on whether or not Byakuya by himself could solo most of the villages in Naruto.


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There was?


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yea well there are pretty long threads here based on alucard vs beyond herald level beings. you cant always go based on an unfair allocation of fans. and from what i remember, narutofan threads did have a fair amount of naruto suporters too{seeing as i go there from time to time to get the naruto manga's latest chapters}. there will always be groups of people who put up silly threads{please any1 who thinks byakuya can solo narutoverse shud go shoot themseles}. doesnt make em valid. besides, the points abot naruto vs bleach stats remains doesnt it.

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Practically any Bleach vs. Naruto match begins and ends with shyunpo + stab to the throat.


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LOL.


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