No, I agree anyway. You are just repeating what I say after you've convinced yourself I said something else.
You're stupid like that. If you had READ, I CLEARLY said it was the WWE's carelessness also.
Nah, that's just utterly ridiculous.
Angle Vs Benoit was a wrestling match. Not one as "pure" as to your obscure, super cool, James Dean-under-a-streetlight tastes (Sarcasm), but a wrestling match.
That argument would hold a lot more weight if you were a fan of real, regulation, unscripted wrestling. You're not, you're also a fan of showmanship and scripted wrestling. Most federations having more of it than WWE does not make WWE void of wrestling.
Was ECW void of wrestling, to you? That's the hypocritical nature, here. You'll stand by ECW's policy of twatting each other with chairs and piledriving women off the apron to the floor, and that's "wrestling", but when Angle and Benoit put on an hour long match of fast-paced wrestling as entertainment, it's not wrestling cos it's not in a fed you like. If that match was in ECW you'd be saying nothing about it, cos you know nothing about wrestling, hardcore wrestling by concept, or anything else on the matter, it seems.
What are you HONESTLY getting out of doing that? That is a question I'd like you to civilly answer. I continually tell you I enjoyed his entertainment, no more or less, and you continue to chime in and repeat this idea that I deify him or something.
What is that achieving for you? Really. Does it make you feel like you're gaining an edge, or something?
Why? Because you are getting made a fool of? You'd like that, wouldn't you? Why don't you stop making shit up and just accept that all of this has come from you blowing my posts out of proportion and putting shit in them that was never there?
You are the one insisting I think that, you are the one who needs to stop doing it. I don't have to stop arguing for Austin being an amazing wrestler...why? Because I've never done that in the first place.
Idiot.
We can all keep saying things, WD. Doesn't make them true.
Wrong. Morgan Freeman is an actor, Robert de Niro is an actor.
Austin is a SOMETHING, that has to act. He does act, he is an actor not by trade, however. So no, you're wrong. He can act, that doesn't make him an actor by trade. If there's an interview, it doesn't say;
"Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Entertainer/Actor.".
Does it? No.
I'll repeat the question, seeing as you are shit scared to answer me, for fear of knowing you'll be exposed. Note how I'm not assuming, I'm asking, rather than telling you what you think or feel, as you are doing.
"For the sake of occupational clarification, Britney Spears is referred to as a musician. What's Austin referred to as, and why?".
Go on. I've laid out the context for you, all you have to do is answer.
What does everybody, wrestling fans alike, refer to Austin as? Marks, people who write for independent wrestling mags, sites, journalistic reviews, they all refer to Austin as this trade, what is it? Hint: Not actor, not general entertainer.
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Then S T O P arguing. It's an agreement.
Wow! After using Cold Play now you bring in James Dean. How do you do it? (don't answer because like you say...Who gives a shit?)
Sure! Who doesn't love to be entertain by a showman. However, I make a clear distinction between what is wrestling and what is acting.
ECW had their own shows of their own. Like Raven getting crucified. Which led to the audience getting offended. However, ECW in a resposible manner and also out of respect for their own fanbase. Decided to apologize. I would love to see that one day from WWE.
Were Angel and Benoit (which you've been having a hard on throught this arguement) wrestling, yes. Were they doing it in an Entertaining way? yes. As a wrestler fan...which one do you care the most for?
You're trying too hard to be one step ahead AC. Get in the same page for ONCE.
Who is blowing who's post out of proportion? Who quote who in the first place? Meeeeee???? No, YOU!
Calling me an idiot does not make you look any more clever AC. You're now doing your typical gimmicks.
But then again, for nearly all day you kept saying "Who gives a shit?"
I gave you an answer. You don't like it. Tough. Don't be so high on asking questions AC. You skip a few yourself. Don't talk about hypocracy again.
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It was a tongue-in-cheek remark. I suppose it's to be expected that you wouldn't get it.
Fair enough. Austin is an entertainer, not a wrestler, I've no qualms there. YOU are saying the ridiculous points of:
A) There's NO wrestling in WWE.
and B) Anyone who liked Austin is a sucker.
I'm going to absolutely end your days of calling me and others suckers for that, right now.
It's hypocritical considering you once said you really, really enjoyed Snakes on a Plane, a movie that was covered in NOTHING but hype before the content was even released, to give the illusion that it wasn't shit. Then there's the fact that I accused you of getting suckered into the substanceless, bland hype of Halo 3. "I don't care, I enjoy it.".
"THOSE AREN'T RELEVANT POINTS, AC!", yes they are, observe.
Why is it ok for you to do that, but all of a sudden anyone who likes Austin is an absolute sucker and an idiot? There'a a difference between hype existing because the CONTENT is great, ie; Austin entertaining in WWE, and hype being used BEFORE hand to cover up for the content being shit, ie; Snakes on a Plane, which you love. You lack the comprehension to differentiate.
It's why you're losing this debate.
Any hype you go along with is coincidentally because you "chose" to. You're a fool, a liar and a hypocrite.
True. I can see the technical finesse, the mat work and grace, the sheer eloquence of that performance in wrestling.
Wait...Raven being crucified? Oh. Nah, that proves my point if anything.
Bring on the relevance any time now. I'm waiting to see how that has relevance to anything you've said, like WWE not containing wrestling.
"WWE doesn't contain wrestling cos ECW apologised for Raven being crucified!". What?
Neither, I do not suffer the idiotic burden of HAVING to separate them. It was a successful combination of what Austin brought and what people like Raven brought, people like Taz and people like Nova.
You are burdening yourself with having to say "YOU MUST ENJOY ONE ASPECT MORE THAN THE OTHER!", no. Pure wrestling, just like pure entertainment, can both be very boring. Hence why I don't watch the olympics and don't watch soap operas. Neither of them interest me. Wrestling successfully combines both, WWE did that. Deal with the fact.
It's precisely why I'm a music fan, not a fan of any particular genre inherently. Some pure wrestling is shit, some pure entertainment is shit. Hence why I am not committing to saying I enjoy one or the other inherently. I enjoy what I enjoy, because I enjoy it. You're using this thread as nothing more than an excuse to stroke your ego about what a wrestling fan you are, and the funny part is, you can't even do that right.
I'm waiting here for you.
So me replying to you with my opinion is blowing it out of proportion, but you continually insisting I deify Austin, claiming I have a hard on, is not?
You are a walking gimmick, people are saying it to me as we speak.
I'm calling you one because you are being one, WD. No attempt at anything.
All day? Nah, you never blow things out of proportion, do you?
Answer the question or admit you can't. I haven't ever skipped anything of yours. If you feel I have, ask me again and I will answer right after you answer mine:
"For the sake of occupational clarification, Britney Spears is referred to as a musician. What's Austin referred to as, and why?".
Your answer was incorrect, it wasn't not to my liking, it was wrong.
Raven actually Crucified the Sandman. And if i remember right kurt angle as there it was one of the reasons why he didn't go to ecw or so he says anyway(sandman adresses this actually)
Yeah I know, I watched it live. I think I may even have it taped somewhere. Originally it was going to be Dreamer, but he wanted no part of it allegedly.
Worded it incorrectly.
I'm just pointing out that his point makes absolutely no sense. He's arguing for "wrestling" at the same time as saying "Raven's crucifixion act was relevant.".
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Pot calling the kettle black.
Then this arguement is finally over.
Oh-no-no-no.....Austin can be a very well liked personality. Can he be a well liked wrestler? No, he can't be, since he's not a wrestler. We agree on that...remenber it.
I don't think we're losing anything. This isn't a race or competition. Oh, I'm sorry...you think it is? No, this is a discussion which you've tried to switch into a mud slinging contest. Cheaters never win AC. They're losers.
*baffle*
As corrected earlier by the other member...it was Raven who crucified the Sandman. Yes, ECW does have their own show to put on. Wait...didn't I clarified that before? Oh, well.
Hold on! Speaking of crucified...didn't Stone Cold also got crucified by Undertaker once? OH MAN! I think he did! Hahahaha!!!! The hack strikes again!
WTF? Altering my comments?!
It's not idiotic...it's an observation. Clearly you're not getting that...you think you too clever there....go you.
Don't talk about Egos AC...yours is one waiting to pop.
Oh, you gonna have to wait a littler longer. It's almost 7:00pm here in Los Angeles. I gotta go out and eat some food. Then play some halo 3 and finally go to bed so that I can be nice and rested for the weekend. So, sit there and wait till the weekend is over.
Yes, it is stop trying to say it isn't. It hurted you that I went straight into Austin and you came here to defend his image with your egocentric mind.
Pot calling the kettle black...AGAIN.
Yes, all day including yesterday.
To ask you again is to drag all that other crap from before. We came to an agreement. Right? AC the question was answer. I gave you an answer. QUIT ACTING LIKE A PRIMADONNA! You are not making yourself look any brighter! You don't answer questions very well well. It's an old gimmick of yours to pose questions and try to twist things around. We know your tricks. We know your antics. We know YOU. Give it up.
My answer was incorrect....TOUGH SHIT! Deal with it.
Oh shoot! 7:00pm gotta eat.
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Point proven. You can't maturely admit that you've been doing it, you just baselessly accuse me of doing it. Ultimate child tactic.
Would have been ages ago, but you decided you wanted to add to my post.
You're learning.
Cheating has nothing to do with anything. You've lost because you've made incorrect points, stupid points, untrue points and YOU were the one who falsified my claims.
It's a discussion, a debate, and you lost.
Thought so.
Might wanna stop calling us all suckers and such, next time.
Yeah, it was you who initially said it was Raven, I was using it in my point. We both worded it wrong, irrelevant.
Point being, so what? That's not wrestling, that's entertainment. If anything, that's worse. That TRIED to be controversial and it sucked a lot of people into it for whatever reason, yet because it's ECW, it's ok to you.
How is that relevant? They stole the idea, yes, shitty move. Point? Actors don't usually write their own scenes.
I will openly admit that was an exaggeration, I would have thought that was obvious. I am not filling my posts with it, and essentially, that was the point you made. I've never said anything you've put in my posts. Ever.
It's a shit observation, saying there's no wrestling in WWE. No two ways about it, slice it how you like, it's a truly stupid observation.
Your point is essentially that WWE doesn't contain wrestling because you like wrestling elsewhere.
I'm not under threat here. I always get involved in debates I can handle, you see. That's the trick to it. Don't get out of your depth.
I'm not gonna dive into a debate with you about Batman's DC comics. I know next to nothing about them. If you can't swim, you stay out of the pool. You clearly watch wrestling without learning a thing from it.
Halo? I WILL sit here, I'll sit and chuckle at the hypocricy a bit longer.
It HURTED me? Hahahaha, oh man. There are no words...
I don't care, I found the man entertaining, you'll obviously believe what you want, which is idiotic but ultimately up to you. When you start forming debates on it, that's the problem. I can only tell you you're wrong so many times before I realise you're just not gonna listen, because you're being stupid.
That "hurted" me. You're "mascarading" as a bully. I'm sorry, I'll stop. It's not your fault.
Point being; don't just say that. If you're accusing me of shit, prove it. I can easily prove MY case.
I posted when you did, what's to say you weren't either? Exactly. Might as well stop being silly, WD. You're looking quite desperate right now.
Whoa, calm it.
I recognise you are feeling rather shamed, because being a global, these things just don't happen to you, do they?! Maybe this whooole debacle will teach you not to be so silly, to stop using that trademark WD tactic of...making things up and running with it, and learning a bit more about wrestling.
...what? You don't even try to maintain a veneer of calm and finesse anymore, do you? You've just gone off the edge. I've drove you to insanity.
Still:
"For the sake of occupational clarification, Britney Spears is referred to as a musician. What's Austin referred to as, and why?.".
His argument is that there's NO wrestling in WWE, contradicts it, but if you think there is, you're a sucker for hype and flashing lights, then contradicts that.
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