He lost everything he loved because he wasnt' strong enough. So he snaps thanks to Tokimi's meddling and from that point on, his mind is nothing but what she wanted: chaos. He wants the universe to be destroyed because he was essentially made to be that way.
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Thing is tho, Pyron DWARFS Z in power, but because of LHW, nothing short of universe busting is beating him. OVA 3 was stupid, being powerful? Sure. Being stronger than multiversal making gods? BULLSHIT(I'm talkin bout Tenchi). Also, aren't you the guy who said Z is Eternity level?
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Z wins pyron's sheer power may be on par with Z, but Z has the much much wider range of abilities he can use with his LHW they are like physical manifestations of reality warping power and it is well within the light hawks ability to erase pyron from existance
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No, Pyron DWARFS Z in power. Z has t3H LHW's uber defense of cheap gheyness, that is the only reason Z can win. Serial tho, why can't Pyron absorb Z AND the LHW>
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the LHWs are Z's source of power and and he applys them for more than just defence all of his abilities are exstensions of his LHWs. There is no way that Pyron generates more power than 5 LHWs he may generate the same about of power output as maybe 2-3. Aside from that LHWs can prefrom just about anything that the user desires from shielding to time travel to recreateing and restoring life, they are aspects of the 3 goddesses themselves and thus would be able to preform any feat they are capable of, to a much lesser exstent. Pyron would have to generate enough power to destroy the universe in order to kill Z and he just doesn't have that kind of power.
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Shielding? Pyron can do that, tho I admit, it is not comparable to LHW defense. Pyron can create matter from nothing and manipulate it(sumthin Z can't do, but Tenchi can). Pyron also possesses a great deal more strength than Z, obviously, he could crush 50 Earths with his pinky. As for speed, Pyron flew from one side of the universe, to Earth, in a meager 3 years, that is like...billions of times FTL. LHW do not make the user omnipotent like you are implying. Pyron also has powerful cosmic awareness, which also allows him to sense things in other dimensions.
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while it is true Z cant do material conversion the rest stands true. We haven't seen blunt showings of strength from Z because frankly he's never been put in a position to use brute strength, he could be as strong as Pyron for all we know. Speed wise Z can easily travel far far faster than light and he can also teleport what took pyron3 years to travel could have been covered in .0003 seconds by Z. I'm not saying he's omnipotent, but the power he wields is if you understand what i mean.
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Okay...even at a human size, Pyron is easily class 100 in strength, and he can get at least as big as the sun(hell, maybe even at a size dwarfing the Andromeda galaxy, tho this is not exactly factual, so don't quote me). Also, matter manip is an extremely useful power, and it is one thing that keeps Z from attaining Skyfather status like Pyron. Z can travel FTL, true, but billions of times FTL? Pyron can also tele, I'm not really sure why he didn't just do that to get to earth.
Actually, the LHW are the power of the Chousen, who are not omnipotent at all. Tenchi being stronger is proof of that.
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Kay. So because only LHW users have done it in the series, only they can? Lol...no. Matter of fact, haven't almost all of Z's opponents been LHW users?
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true he's only fought LHW users but tenchi has used his in battle on different occasions against some of the most powerful threats in the galaxy and the result is the same every time. You have no proof that anything less than another light hawk can pose a threat to him. Until Pyron has a universe busting feat under his belt my opinion stands
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Or he absorbs/matter manip him. Oh, and clearly you don't actually have to bust the universe to kill Z, it wasn't busted when the energies flowing from Tenchi's body killed him.
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he wont be able to get past the LHW to do any absorbsion or manipulation, as for Z getting killed, lets say your right about that for a moment, however tokimi's comment can not be ignored. It is more likely that tenchi released enough energy to destroy a universe but z caught the blunt of that force, otherwise one would have to assume that tokimi would have had to expend a universe busting level of power in order to interfere in the fight and stop Z which that in it's self does not make much sense.
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LHWs reduce all attacks to 0. They are completely invincible save for another LHW or extremely high reality warping power (at least universe - busting). Z has matter and energy manipulation as well (for example when he recreated the structure of Mihoshi's letter).
All he needs to do is hit Pyron once with a LHW, even a grazing hit, and Pyron will disintegrate and be erased from existence.
Tenchi's power being unleashed was destroying the entire hyperdimension (multiverse). Only True Kami Tenchi's arrival was able to stop it, and then the Chousein had to fix the entire hyperdimension of its damage. In OVA 20 Tokimi stated that even after the Chousein's quick fix job, the multiverse was still damaged and needed to be fixed.
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