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Though the sword has some special abilities, what Jack does for it, skill-wise, like out-fighting chronos, is entirely because of him. The sword is just his tool.


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the sword is magic kronick. MAGIC. therefore all feats are negated. if he can beat chronos yet he has some trouble with robots somethings wrong


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the sword is magic kronick. MAGIC. therefore all feats are negated. if he can beat chronos yet he has some trouble with robots somethings wrong
That was Jack near the start of the series. Also, you act as tho simply cause his sword is magic, he needs no skill.


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Though the sword has some special abilities, what Jack does for it, skill-wise, like out-fighting chronos, is entirely because of him. The sword is just his tool.


Pay attention, you need to think before you post


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ok. give him a regular sword. id like to see him replicate what he's done. highly unlikely. he could never even hurt the scottsman with a regular sword

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His sword was magic to


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If anything, I'd say that a dimension-cutting sword should disqualify him, if his feats are due simply to a magic weapon.


He made his own sword into a dimension cutter. He did it by using the behelits that he took from killing other apostles. He swallowed the behelits, and then when he needed the 'sword of resonance' he stuck his sword down his throat and coated it with the behelits he had taken.


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ok. give him a regular sword. id like to see him replicate what he's done. highly unlikely. he could never even hurt the scottsman with a regular sword
...What? He could if you give the Scottsman a normal sword. Also, Scottsman is a tough bastard.


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Jack's feats of cutting objects are discounted, but not his skills. He is quite skilled as a swordsman. And yeah, the Scotsman has a rune sword. Plus, if your left leg is a machine gun AND you wear a kilt, you better be a tough bastard. laughing out loud


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You guys act like just because his sword can cut things, he can beat all the foes he's beaten. Even though it had trouble cutting those ultra-robots.


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i think hei from yuyu hakusho if i spelled it right


Even though he's one of my favorite anime characters of all time, I must point out that Hiei doesn't really have any real sword skills. He just combines random slashes with his inredible level of speed, to be able to hack up enemies in a really bad-ass way cool . At any rate, he actually fought with his fists on more occasions than he had with his sword.


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Originally posted by ensatsu-ken
Even though he's one of my favorite anime characters of all time, I must point out that Hiei doesn't really have any real sword skills. He just combines random slashes with his inredible level of speed, to be able to hack up enemies in a really bad-ass way cool . At any rate, he actually fought with his fists on more occasions than he had with his sword.
He was taught swordsmanship by Shigure, wasn't he?


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Heie doesn't really have any good sword fears. As Enatsu said, he just uses his powers to help him use his sword. His actual dueling abilities aren't too impressive.


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He was taught swordsmanship by Shigure, wasn't he?


Yeah, but Shigure didn't pass on all of his swordsmanship skills to Hiei. That is not to say that he was not skilled at all, but its not like Hiei trained under him for a long time (as in a few years). He only trained with him for a little while (probably a few days), and then left to go onto his own priorities. Also, when they fought, Hiei was only able to win because of his speed, and even then, Shigure was still able to land a devastating hit on him, which would have cost Hiei his life if Mokuro hadn't healed him. If he had picked up more of Shigure's skills, then he probably could have avoided being slashed, and still could have killed Shigure, with his speed advantage (although they were actually relatively close in speed, seeing as Shigure could track all of his movements).


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Heie doesn't really have any good sword fears. As Enatsu said, he just uses his powers to help him use his sword. His actual dueling abilities aren't too impressive.


Well, his actual swordsmanship abilities aren't anything special at all, however, his battle abilities in general are great, IMO. He has been in some of my favorite battles in the entire sereis, and I like them mainly because of his awesome abilities, such as the Fist of the Mortal Flame, the Sword of the Darkness Flame (otherwise known as "ensatsuken" wink ), his Dragon of the Darkness Flame, and a few other abilities of his. He also does have some fighting skills with his fists, since he was able to go head to head with Yusuke, who has some great martial arts skills cool .


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Heie does have awesome skills in general, my post was just referring to his swordssmanship.


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Toguro is better in actual H2H than most in the series, just overall weaker than the people in the later sagas.


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He does. He beat Chronos, who beat the universe.


And Kyoya once took in the power of the universe.

But it isn't his normal displayed abilities. Care for me to use it like this bogus feat Jack has?


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And Kyoya once took in the power of the universe.

But it isn't his normal displayed abilities. Care for me to use it like this bogus feat Jack has?

Really? Because Jack had no amp in this situation. It was his regular power level.


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And his regular power level shouldn't be enough for a universe destroyer. Do you not comprehend this?


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