And Freeza's what, 1000x stronger than Piccalo was then? That gotta be large planet level at best.
Oh Carver, why do you insist on making me strain my eyes on tiny pics? Fyi I meant the broader term of bullet time. Seeing the pic I can safely say that he was demonstrating Mach 1-2 speeds. (400ms bullets, reaction distance of 1m, increased due to multiple bullets.)
Problem is that Goku has never witnessed a universe buster... hell he's barely seen a planet buster. How do you expect him to know what anything above planet busting is like? Universal threat does not mean universe buster.
No, he had no way of knowing his destructive limits as he just gained the power..... nor does it actually matter as A) His so called "solar system" busting attack didnt do what he said it could and B) Gohan's 'stronger' blast didnt didnt even come close to his hyperboled statement.
All he'd have to do is look away and begin to move while Tien was calling out the flash, the others looking at the stage would already be blinded.
Something around that number, maybe more with a more powerful explosion but it would be at most high-supersonic for a bomb we've made.
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More than a large planet buster (Frieza)... Piccolo was millions of times weaker than Frieza, not 1000's. With that said, I agree, Frieza probably can't destroy a Universe but I wouldn't put it past him on being able to destroy multiples of planets with a single blast if it came down to it.
Lol... my bad with the small scan... posted it from my phone. The point of the scan is, Roshi couldn't even perceive kid Goku during his fight against Tien and Roshi catch bullets like candy.
Goku wasn't the only person that said anything about Frieza vs a universe. It was stated throughout Friezas appearance. What does Universe threat means to you? What level of power would you have to be at to be a Universal threat?
Why wouldn't Cell know his own destructive power? Can you please stop basing things off of collateral damage... it doesn't work like that. We also know that DBZ attacks are only at its peek when the blast explodes... Cell and Gohun blast did not explode.
Cell stating what his blast was/is capable of doing isn't hyperbole... its him knowing his limits.
I think you are getting the figures wrong in regards to outracing a nuclear explosion while being in the heart of it. That alone is at least Mach 500+ and that happened from a none full powered Goku.
Depends if you go by PL or not. No doubt that he has the power that could blow up multiple planets... just not in one blast. Venus to us is 42mil km away, Frieza would need the power to destroy an area 40x larger than the Sun to blow up two planets at the same time. The distance is far to large for him.
Thats cos he was blind by the time Goku go to him, even if he wasn't Goku wouldn't need to move that fast to escape the perception of an unfocused, about to be blinded Roshi.
Universal threat in Frieza's case = A person who will travel the universe destroying each planet he finds. By power-scaling not even end of GT characters could destroy a galaxy in one blast.
Because he has no way of knowing his final limits and never did or has seen an attack like that to compare to. Gohan's wave has the same end result that Cell's wave would have; shooting a blast into space. Think about this, both Cell and the Z-fighters expressed fear when he or Goku were going to use a fully charged wave and commented on how a full powered wave would destroy the Earth. So SSJ1 is a planet buster and the jump to SSJ2 makes you a galaxy buster? The difference between SSJ Goku and SSJ2 Gohan is nowhere near that massive.
Ah here we go, 400 mph is outer blast and wind speed. The central blast is around Mach 45, [Initially explodes 15m in 0.001 seconds] where did you get Mach 500+ from? Also what makes you assume that a blast from Frieza works like our atomic bombs?
[Note: SoL = Mach 880,991. Way out of his league.]
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goku can do an instant kamehameha just like with cell and attack d.s.or a full power dragon fist.those attacks can be charged in 1 second cuz they require only gokus ki.goku can charge the universal spirit bomb that requires the whole universe ki in planet namek for example and combine the spirit bomb with insant transmission and destroy d.s.
also goku can use the black star balls wich summons the black star shenron who is red and much bigger than earths shenron porunga and black star shenron combined.he also has no limits so he can grant any wish.goku will just say "remove d.s. from existance" .THE END
If he can't fully charge his blast its pointless here, nor is Dragon Fist a big deal. So Goku's going to flee to another planet to charge? Well if DS doesn't just go over and snap his neck then he can simple avoid the Bomb. Remember his massively FTL speeds? And dont forget that DS can't die if you only destroy his body, his regeneration alone is far better than Buu's.
Thats IF he can gather all the black star balls before DS kills him. Or IF DS for some reason sits there for a few mins to allow him to summon and make his wish. And that IF we're counting GT as canon.
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goku is also massively FTL .as i told you he has the dragonball on his body.goku will charge the universal spirit bomb before he encounters d.s. then he will search for him do the instant transmission and throw the sirit bomb.goku can also wish for immortality like garli jr.and about the black star balls goku will make his wish before his battle starts
No.. he isn't. You have no proof for this. Dragon Balls in his body means nothing, and wishing 'before' a match is not how we do things, nor are these two things canon. We don't do things before a match unless prep is involved, reason being I can just say DS blows up Goku's planet before he even realises theres a match. And it doesn't say who's betting in a fight that way.
"And dont forget that DS can't die if you only destroy his body, his regeneration alone is far better than Buu's."
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>__> Child I know more about DBZ than you, ya havnt even read the manga. Mange > Anime in feats.
shut up !!!your db knowledge isnt as near as mine.after the android saga almost very new villain was massively ftl.and some fighters are also ftl like goku vegeta gohan.gotenks is also ftl.goku wont destroy just d.s. body he will destroy and his spirit
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