Freeza has an empire full of planets. They knew he was on namek, Freeza would be found even if he was incapacitated with Namek gone, which he was. I see you are still reaching with the atmosphere thing. If thats not space to you then our real life space stations and shuttles aren't in space. If he was in the "very upper atmosphere" then it still wouldn't matter because there would still be no oxygen to breathe. On top of that when considering Planet Vegeta has increased gravity their atmosphere would be 10x smaller than ours. He is clearly in space. Now you are even going so far with the reaching as too resort to the no air in space thing. Tell that too the science fiction writers and remind them you can't talk in space either and maybe you should tell them you can't go faster than light speed while youre at it
but anyway you are just repeating the argument you already made and I'm not going to go back and forth with you for 30 pages of the samething. You can argue points contradicted in the story itself but what I said was backed by the manga, the anime, the movies, and Bardock's Akira Toriyama directed tv special.
Thanks alot for the scan. One was a small mountain and the other was a big rock. That feat is still above a 50 tonner and there was another speed feat, goku was instantly on top of vegeta when he through that blast. It appeared that he was at leaast 2 miles away and got to vegeta instantly.
You made it look even better, goku had already threw the blast, the blast didnt even make it out of the water yet and goku was already out of the water coming at him with a kick. Kento, that is a speed feat and a amazing one at that.
So if wolverine had flight I guess he could pull off some of these feats and I guess we can throw every strength feat that almost everyone in dc and marvel top tiers have accomplished since almost all of it was done while they were flying.
I agree with this statement but that again is something above a hundred tonner.
It was 3:00 in the morning, what do you expect. I have read every dbz comic at least 5 times. Dont tell me what I know and dont know.
It happened.
It was going at tremendous speed due to the outlines and drawings. That is one thing that we know.
Some of this just makes no sense. I don't know if you are purposely lying or just don't know.
anyway he is clearly in space.
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Proven. Bardock is in space. Of course though this won't be good enough since you never concede a point or even acknowledge that anything other than your own thoughts could be right. Next you'll say the space shuttle isn't in space or something as equally ridiculous.
How in the hell does that prove Bardock was in space when we can barely see where he was at all?
Zarbon and Vegeta ripping up Namek's core? The entirety of that ignorant statement is unfounded bullshit, no such thing was ever stated, shown, or even subtly implied.
And if Wolverine could fly fast enough and hit with enough speed he COULD do those feats, but he can't. Look at Flash. Flash can't lift so much as a ton. Yet he can hit as hard as Superman since the speed at which his punches connect is far greater.
Maybe you should look one or two pages before that.
But if you don't. He forms two energy balls, moves away from them after leaving them sit in the water, and then controls them to go flying up to trick Freeza. He's not sitting in the spot the energy balls fly from.
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What do you mean, not out of the water yet? It was right next to Frieza. And no one knows how fast ki blasts travel, anyway. I can show you tons of scans of normal humans reacting to them.
If he could fly at a high enough speed, like higher than sound speed, yes.
Except for all the ones that weren't....
Okay, yes. We're on the same page for once.
You're the one who couldn't remember his name. And if you have read the manga 5 times, you must have very poor memory retention, since you keep invoking stuff that was never in the manga.
I guess Aoshi is moving past escape velocity "due to the outlines and drawings"!
(BTW, if you didn't know, Rurouni Kenshin characters are just barely superhuman, only the top tiers in the manga can move faster than sound speed, and this was rather early on before they reached that level).
I concede points when I'm wrong - I can give you tons of examples.
Except I'm not wrong here. You're ignoring the issue of perspective. That one is a side - on shot, where the Bardock page is a shot from a higher angle. Furthermore, we don't know the extent or composition of planet Vegeta's atmosphere. Finally, he could just be holding his breath.
Look, I'd be willing to admit Bardock was breathing in space if it weren't for all of the manga evidence suggesting Saiya-jins need air to breathe.
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Oct 28th, 2008 04:38 AM
Now you are even going so far with the reaching as too resort to the no air in space thing. Tell that too the science fiction writers and remind them you can't talk in space either and maybe you should tell them you can't go faster than light speed while youre at it 
